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    Safety looks good to me.

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    One thing that may be wrong about the safety are the tool marks on the face. They should be more like the face of the mag catch, cross ways not circular.

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    I agree with what has been said about the barrel band, although the picture is not detailed enough. You would think the slide would show some wear also on the side shown. It appears to me to be refinished, but I could be wrong there. The hammer is Underwood isn't it?The neat thing (maybe) is that the serial number is about 1600 away from my 5.74.

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    The safety is 100% usgi Winchester, the hammer is an Underwood and there is no record of any lateral support on hammers to Winchester. It is documented that Underwood sent hammer springs and pins to Winchester in early 1944. The front site shows no signs of removal so from what I see the band looks ok. If you own a M1icon Carbine that the front site is all beat up in the front and rear it more than likely has been removed and messed with. That is a sure way to tell if a M1 Carbine has been restored or parts removed and replaced. The front site on that rifle looks untouched but better pictures and an in person inspection would be the best way to determine if its original or not. Oh well In the spirit of collecting PBI

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    The safety looked good to me also. That was my reason for asking Bruce his thoughts. Winchester's safety has been brought up before, two and four years ago.

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    Each Winchester I've found has had it's safety. This loose one has been sitting in my parts box for over 20 years. Still waiting it's turn.


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    Winchester barrel bands

    when viewed from the bottom left side will have the two spot welds above the screw hole, not at the same level or below. In photo 10 they appear to be inline or below.
    Winchester type2

    Inland type 2

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    Nice comparison picture, Dave. I was going by the position of the screw hole as I have learned to do. I also enlarged the photo some and got some more detail out of it. The gun is doing well still at just over 900 dollars as I type this.

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    Look at the coloration of the safety. Then compare it to the magazine release and the trigger housing. It shows no discoloration from use while the magazine release does and matches the trigger housing. I do not think it's original to this carbine. The front sight is not a thumb nail type for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill View Post
    Look at the coloration of the safety. Then compare it to the magazine release and the trigger housing. It shows no discoloration from use while the magazine release does and matches the trigger housing. I do not think it's original to this carbine. The front sight is not a thumb nail type for sure.
    Ah... maybe not original to that carbine because of color and wear. I might agree with that. But I feel it is real not a repo. Thanks

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    I'm with you Jim, the safety is Real!, It's du-lited, that's why it doesn't match the Housing.

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