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Aragorn, on private land it isn't. Public land is a different story, even with a CWP it has to be concealed. I myself don't really understand how this thing got out of control the way it did. I was 100% legal. The pistol was in the glove box until I got to where I was going on my land. The gw tried to make a case on his assumption it was out while I was on public road. Don't know about other places but here law enforcement is well known for charging people with serious offences that would more than likely get thrown out of court if it went to trial but before that happens the arresting officer will appear to ''cut a deal'' with the guilty party if that party will agree to ''rat'' on others to smart of the LEO's to catch on their own so they use coercion and trickery to get the job done. I figure that's what this guy was up to. Wild hog hunting has gotten immensely popular in the last decade and there are people smuggling them in under the radar to boost the population in areas that have small or no native herds. This is highly illegal. Another thing is selling wild game. When a processor takes in a deer the only person who can legally pay for their services and take possession of the meat is the one who brought it in. If that person fails to pick up his deer and the processor then takes money from someone else then in the eyes of the DNR that's selling wild game and the fine is enormous.
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09-12-2013 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by
vintage hunter
I wasn't arrested for having the pistol on the seat on private land but rather on the suspicion it was there while I was on a public road.
It would have been illegal for you to have a pistol on the passenger seat while driving down a public road?
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Yessir It surely would be. In S.C. it has to be concealed in a glove box or console on public property if you don't have a CWP. If you hold a CWP you can conceal it on your person, but it has to be concealed in such a way as to be completely unnoticeable. That means no bulges, profiles or silhouettes through thin clothing. IMO, it's kinda hard for a man to legally carry anything but the smallest handgun concealed here in hot weather. There are a few ways to carry concealed in S.C. without a permit, one is if you are going to or coming from hunting or fishing, another is if you are carrying a considerable amount of money. this one sounds a bit tricky to me, nobody has ever been able to tell me exactly what the dollar figure is on a considerable amount. Right now a hundred dollars is a considerable amount to me.
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I do not have a link handy to a good article about the recent battle in Mississippi but one should not be hard to find one. We have just ovecome the printing,partially concieled,inadvertant exposure nonsence that had been used to water down the right spelled out in the state constitution concerning 2nd ammendiment. Again Vintage I am truly glad you came out on top.
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I'll have to check to see what it legal in a vehicle in PA. I never really looked into it much. We do have open carry and there was a huge stink about a woman that insisted on carrying a huge revolver on her hip while attending little league baseball games. The local authorities took the gun away from her and barred her from doing it again but it was overturned in court. I never could figure out why she insisted on keeping the firearm during a little league game but she was legal. If I remember correctly she was later shot with the very same handgun by her husband. Not positive on that but can't find any news links to it anymore.
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What ever his probable cause was he'll have to articulate it in his report. It is likely he has a rather vague idea of what probable cause is, and this may be an opportunity to educate him on the provisions of the Constitution and state law. It is clear from what you reported here that he had already determined that he was going to make an arrest, and your explanation didn't persuade him otherwise.
The local police here are very poorly trained and they frequently "flip the script" and treat the person that called for police service as if they committed some offense, apparently to punish the caller for bothering the officer with their petty problems. Their methodology of conducting "investigations" is to try to instill fear and intimidate the people involved, with threatening questions like "have you ever been to jail?" As to the provisions of the Constitution and state law, violating civil rights and the penal code is justified as a means to an end. It's to the point the citizens in the community are better off if the police don't show up.
It is a general trend that the police prefer to make an arrest and let the court sort it out, rather than conduct an investigation and write a report, which they are incompetent to do. The City persecutor's offices prefer that reports have a minimum of information so that they can more easily get a filing on the case in the court, and they are always bragging in the press how high their percentage of won cases.
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I would make it profitable. then the gw gets his due. attorney would jump on it.
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Originally Posted by
vintage hunter
In S.C. it has to be concealed in a glove box or console on public property if you don't have a CWP. If you hold a CWP you can conceal it on your person, but it has to be concealed in such a way as to be completely unnoticeable. That means no bulges, profiles or silhouettes through thin clothing.
WOW! I have read that some state versions of CWP Law are "grudging", at best, but that is ridiculous. I hope that y'all can get your CWP Law cleaned up soon.
Thanks for the explanation & I am happy that the GW eventually backed-off.
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"I do not consent to searches. Am I being detained? Am I free to go?"
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"I do not consent to searches. Am I being detained? Am I free to go?"
+1 and an Audio recording device with you at all times....
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