Bro bought a K98, want to make sure he wasnt ripped off. Sas told to come here (pics)

[ob1]

hello,

My brother is a huge WW2 fanatic, and he collects a lot of German memorabilia.

Recently he bought a K98 from some machine gun shoot/ gun show.

My brother gave his old K98 and $200 for this gun.

The dealer said that the K98 was original, and made in Auschwitz. He also said the gun was worth about $3,000-$4,000.

The deal seems almost too good to be true. (A $400 rifle, and $200 for something that's worth $4000???) So I am afraid that it might be counterfit, or that the dealer might be stretching the value a lot..

I was hoping you guys could tell me if this is counter fit, how much its worth, and if guns were really made in Auschwitz?

(someone said it might be Russian capture as well, would that reduce price?)

Thank you guys so much!

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[kar98k]

see that waffenamt on the top of the receiver above the "bnz" code? it shouldn't be there on an SS rifle. it is a fake.

can't tell if it's a Russian capture from these pics. but $3,000-$4,000 even for an all matching single rune is WAY high

and bnz rifles were not made in Auschwitz. it was Mauthausen in Austria that has the notorious connection to that code.


EDIT: after looking at the reciever, it does have the Russian capture "X" on the left side. it is an RC

[ob1]

thank you for the quick reply.

I hate to ask, but are you sure its fake?? I just don't want to break the news to my brother.
How much is it worth since its fake?

[kar98k]

SS rifles were not inspected by regular military inspectors. they were a different branch of service and didn't use waffenamts in places where you'll find them on standard military rifles.

being that it's a Russian capture with a fake SS stamp, $300-$400 is about what it would fetch. simply for being a 98k in shootable condition.

[WarPig1976]

I have to note also the finish is not original either. I can't tell but it's either the Russian refurb Shellac or Bubba goo.


"Nuts"

[ob1]

what should we do about the guy that sold it to us? Should we contact him and ask for a refund?

[kar98k]

if you want, but unless he is a liar with a good heart i think you're stuck with it.

[WarPig1976]

if you want, but unless he is a liar with a good heart i think you're stuck with it.

+1


"Nuts"

[Calif-Steve]

Buy the gun, not the story. Worth $4000.00 but sold for $400.00? So now you are trying to figure it out. Looks like a decent shooter to me. Good luck shooting it, I think it will work out just fine.

[ob1]

ends up that the guy ended up selling my brothers gun for $800.. The guy walked away with $1000, and my brother ended up with a $400 gun... ugh...