+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: 6 groove Lee Enfield

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Contributing Member CINDERS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last On
    Today @ 12:08 PM
    Location
    South West Western Australia
    Posts
    7,756
    Real Name
    CINDERS
    Local Date
    04-26-2024
    Local Time
    08:46 AM

    6 groove Lee Enfield

    I had heard there were 6 groovers Rt Hand twist once for the 303's is this a myth or did they at one time try it.
    I have heard a fo par how true it is I do not know but the Brits decided on a left twist due to their geographical location and the coreolis affect

    Just a general question anyway some one may know
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    Advisory Panel smellie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Last On
    01-14-2019 @ 09:17 AM
    Location
    Virden, Man. Pop 3250, 4 miles from Wolverine's range!
    Posts
    632
    Local Date
    04-25-2024
    Local Time
    08:46 PM
    Bullets coming out of a rifle with left-hand twist tend to drift left because of pressure on the point of the bullet. This has to do with gyroscopic effect. Bullets coming from barrels with right-hand twist will tend to drift right. In either case, once you know the direction of twist, adjustment to compensate is simple. In the case of the Lee-Enfild there was sufficient adjustment in the basic design for it to pose no real problem.

    There were two batches of Number 4 Rifles made with 6-groove barrels. The earlier was the first production by Savage, which was set up already for a 6-groove barrel. It would have taken considerable time to build the equipment for standerd 5-groove Enfield left-hand rifling and Britainicon was nearly out of time, so they said to go ahead.

    The later production was by Long Branch, well after the war, when some 6-groove barrels were made using Bren Gun machinery from the old John Inglis plant. These barrels were peacetim-made and beautifully done. They were VERY much in demand by the DCRA crowd but, at $60 plus installation, they were never common. They were very hard to beat out to at least 600 yards. These also were Right twist. A fellow just ran into one on a 1950 Long Branch rifle; I think he is happy.

    Hope this helps.

  4. The Following 3 Members Say Thank You to smellie For This Useful Post:


  5. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  6. #3
    Legacy Member 5thBatt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Last On
    Today @ 03:13 PM
    Location
    Zombie Town, now with a H
    Posts
    774
    Local Date
    04-26-2024
    Local Time
    12:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    I have heard a fo par how true it is I do not know but the Brits decided on a left twist due to their geographical location and the coreolis affect

    Just a general question anyway some one may know
    There is an (negligible) effect on the path of a projectile by the rotation of the Earth but the effect the direction of the rifling combined with the rotation of the planet depends on the direction you are shooting.
    Last edited by 5thBatt; 10-19-2013 at 09:30 PM.

  7. The Following 3 Members Say Thank You to 5thBatt For This Useful Post:


  8. #4
    Legacy Member CODFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Last On
    03-02-2024 @ 03:57 PM
    Location
    Toronto
    Age
    54
    Posts
    282
    Real Name
    Michael
    Local Date
    04-25-2024
    Local Time
    07:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smellie View Post
    A fellow just ran into one on a 1950 Long Branch rifle; I think he is happy.
    Yes I am - still got that grin on my face :-)

  9. Thank You to CODFan For This Useful Post:


  10. #5
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    Curator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Last On
    12-28-2017 @ 04:09 PM
    Location
    Bonita Springs, Florida
    Age
    78
    Posts
    32
    Local Date
    04-25-2024
    Local Time
    07:46 PM
    Also many Pre-5C Savage/Stevens No.4Mk1 (no *) were made with 6-groove, right hand twist barrels.

  11. #6
    Legacy Member Detroit-1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Last On
    06-19-2023 @ 08:16 AM
    Posts
    202
    Local Date
    04-25-2024
    Local Time
    07:46 PM
    My 1942 Savage No.4 MK1 not MK1* serial in the 10c range has a 6 groove barrel that is left hand groove not right.

  12. Thank You to Detroit-1 For This Useful Post:


  13. #7
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    RobD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Last On
    12-14-2023 @ 03:21 AM
    Location
    UK / South Africa
    Posts
    942
    Local Date
    04-26-2024
    Local Time
    01:46 AM
    Lee Enfield sighted their rifles to take account of the coriolis effect in the Northern Hemisphere, but the Boers insisted on fighting in the Southern Hemisphere, thereby clearly cheating and this was obviously the reason the Boers beat the Britishicon Empire into a cocked hat.

  14. #8
    Contributing Member muffett.2008's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Last On
    Today @ 06:47 PM
    Location
    Scone, NSW. Australia
    Posts
    2,165
    Real Name
    kevin muffett
    Local Date
    04-26-2024
    Local Time
    10:46 AM
    Who won that war again?

  15. #9
    Contributing Member CINDERS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last On
    Today @ 12:08 PM
    Location
    South West Western Australia
    Posts
    7,756
    Real Name
    CINDERS
    Local Date
    04-26-2024
    Local Time
    08:46 AM
    Thread Starter
    Well if the Brits shot from North to South and the Boers shot from the South to the North wait or was it the other way, no I have it Moriarty they will both shoot from the East to the West that way they wont hit a thing ! Dang it another Trigger Gripper .................. sorry just feel sparking up threads as sometime it is a bit flat, had a WTF moment with a fox today @6 feet blimey and crikey we were both supprised guess he never had seen a Ghillied human!

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. 2- groove vs 4-groove barrel
    By Calfed in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 09-03-2011, 09:18 AM
  2. 2 versus 5 groove, date of manufacture, sight type for no4 mk1 enfield?
    By lxvnrsw in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 06-04-2011, 12:32 PM
  3. 2 groove barrels versus 4 groove barrels?
    By kennethf in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10-12-2010, 11:16 AM
  4. 2 groove/4 groove ???
    By Jon K in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 12-28-2009, 03:45 PM
  5. VI Groove??
    By Loy Hamilton in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 11-15-2009, 06:24 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts