My BSA Shirley T

[CINDERS]

Tried before, some files loaded and others did not so here goes again.

It is a 1944 with A K & S No 32 Mk III is going into the Dr's to get the draws done as they are worn but appart from that its ok, I will try and add the ones with the scope attached.

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[tbonesmith]

That looks like a beauty!

[Bruce_in_Oz]

Just love the fact that there was an arms plant/place called "Shirley".

As in; "Surely, you cant be serious!". " I am; and don't call me Shirley"

While we are at it, what is the etymology of "Fazackerley"?

(Sunday night: good day at work,excellent dinner, some nice wine, and look what happens.)

[Roger Payne]

Bruce, the factory was about 15 miles from where I live. Shirley is a suburb of Solihull, which lies on the South Eastern edge of Birmingham (it's where all the posh people who work in Brum live). Sadly there's now a 'Toys R Us' occupying much of the factory site.......but a sign of the times I s'pose.

Can't help with Faz., except to say that the word most beloved of scousers has fewer syllables but does also start with an 'F'.

The rifle is nice & certainly the real deal, but it looks like the re-sweating of the body pads was undertaken since it left military service. The MoD would have phossed & blacked it at the same time! The serial number is right at the cusp of the changeover from the last Mk2's to the first Mk3's (I'm speaking loosely here as we all know the serial number doesn't necessarily relate too rigidly to when the scope was made). Those 'early' Mk3's were indeed AK&S's - is yours the matching scope Cinders?

ATB

[CINDERS]

Hi Roger,
Yep it all matches the serial on the socket to the scope the bottom and both top woods have pencilled in them the No.3 each piece so the amourer/s who were doing the work could keep the pieces together, I have not pulled the butt off for obvious reasons but will go on the rest of the rifle that this one has the rifles serial No. stamped on the butt where it is under the socket, the scope is an early Mk III Kershaw 1944 ser-16684 they ran from 16500 to 18299 my scopes serial places the rifles fit up date between Sept - Dec 1944.
Hopefully in a few weeks I can get it all together after it has gone to the Dr's and get back with some range pics I am working on a load that gives 2440Fps with the 174SMK but only at @38,600psi will let you know how it fairs, I have done the bullet in the muzzle check with a Mk VII round and it does not go in vey far at all, I used a gauge on it and it is a snug .302".

Later on - I forgot to add that the scope mounting bracket is stamped JG though the G is faint and the bracket is serialed to the rifle, this particular rifle was supposed to have been a display item at a place for 50 years prior to it coming into the previous owners hands I was never given the info from this person exactly where it was displayed therefore I guess I am it's if you like 3rd owner if it is true!







You Know thats "Fazackerley" where I left it after Sunday nights dinner ?

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Attachment 46675Attachment 46674Attachment 46673 re sized the pics guys here it is kitted up the scope cover is a repro as is the scope tin they are all getting rather dear now but I do have an original draw scope at least.
Thanks for the comments.

[bigduke6]

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Just love the fact that there was an arms plant/place called "Shirley".

As in; "Surely, you cant be serious!". " I am; and don't call me Shirley"

While we are at it, what is the etymology of "Fazackerley"?

(Sunday night: good day at work,excellent dinner, some nice wine, and look what happens.)

Good question Bruce, I,m sure it was to do with WW2 and to throw them off the scent, you mention Fazackerley , proper name= Fazakerley, at the time this was a place in open fields, same as ROF Kirkby, the two were not far from each other (as the crow fly's) but Kirkby was a munitions plant, There was provisions to enable one factory to be able to do a set % of the other how true this was I don't know, I've interviewed a few old workers, and they say........Anyway maybe one day there will be a book

A pic of the entrance of ROF (F)

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[teltec01]

Very nice rifle, looking forward to reading about the groups you get after you figure out the best load.