BSA T re bedding

[CINDERS]

I am having a professional custom stock maker re bed my Shirley T I spoke to Peter L earlier on about a few things and given the guns age etc it appears it does have issues.
So I am starting with the stock as I have had the barrel checked and have checked the headspacing anyway I digress.
Simple question he has done his 303's with the Fulton type bedding principle which I can see the merits of as it should hopefully never need doing in my lifetime again (not that old yet).

Any way the Q is having it re done should not upset the sighting for the scope to much I am thinking as it is all about the bracket action interface how the scopes etc is set up.
I have procured all heights of the correct type of front blades as listed in the armourers perspective when I try it out with open sights as per 25 yard target from milsurps.
So the re bedding process should not up set the optical system too much what say all of ye knowledge guru's.

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[Thunderbox]

There should be no reason to anything other than fit the forend so that it gives correct military bedding.

Unless the existing forend is damaged or warped in some way, there shouldn't be any need to replace it.


What exactly is the shooting problem with the rifle? The most common problems on 4(T)s is either a worn out barrel or a loose pad.

[Peter Laidler]

The only minor problem you might encounter, and I don't really understand your question, but if you're refitting the/a fore-end you might load up the muzzle bearing a tad greater that the weight you had previously so slightly alter the damping harmonics. But nothing more than one variation of foresight blade up/down

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When I contacted Peter by PM (oops) the King screw (yes again Peter an Australian thing!) with the original screw done up as tight as I can and I am no wimp the barrel was displaying about zero up lift like it just flopped around and the whole action moved when the barrel was lifted, the rifle was assembled.
So I changed the screw and got it down but there is still perceptable action movement, @100m with 40.5 grains ADI AR 2208 (Varget for the USA'ers) 174 SMK Fed 210 RP brass cleaned trimmed chamfered the rifle battled and so did I to hold a 10"group aiming at a 5"circle.
The bore is excellent gauges at .302 and the ol Mk VII catridge trick at the muzzle the projie does not go in very far at all denoting a barrel that has plenty in it unlike my 1916 Lithgow which is tired.

Look it could be a number of things but I started with the obvious and I wanted to know would re bedding compromise the set up between the optics and where it will shoot ie run out of adjustment, now when I think of my question it is a real dads Dumb As Dog Sh*t question as the bracket etc is set to the centre line and horizontal axis of the bore.

I did not want to stuff around trying to follow a book on how too and wreck a rather expensive rifle as I paid way above what it was worth to try and help a friend but we are not friends now such is life and I have to now spend more $'s on it to get it on the planet and thats without having the scope checked by Peter L which is the next step, try telling that to the minister for finance and war who shoots a dam side better than I do, no use zig zagging.......

[Thunderbox]

For a start, the front trigger guard screw (King screw) collar must be too long, if the screw tightening is not pulling the receiver into the forend. If a new collar has been fitted, then it will almost certainly need to be trimmed a bit.

The barreled action should be a reasonably firm drop-in fit. If the forend is loose on the action, it also suggests that the recoil faces are damaged or indented. They should be patched.

These are two remedies that should be attempted before any "bedding" work.

Can you post some photos of the inside of the rifle and the inside of the forend? Do you have access to a firearms dealer or someone who is knowledgeable about Enfields?

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Hey T-box thanks for the reply and info I do have a professional stock maker engaged to do the re bedding I have seen his work on his 303's and my friends 460 Weatherby Magnum, he is going to give it the Fulton treatment which should outlast me and hopefully a long shooting career for my son as long as he hedges the T.
I do appreciate the forum as there is allot of knowledge out there and I for one hope it is passed on for generations to come.
They are all out there Laidler, Brian Dick, Skennerton, Brian Labudda, tbonesmith, Ridolpho, Warpig and others to numerous to mention, I am on a journey with my BSA Shirley 15 years I waited till I could afford one, now I have one, I have the draw scope a repro sight tin but the transit case I may be lucky to buy one or I will build one myself if some one gives me the specs and what hinges it takes detailed pics would be good.

---------- Post added at 09:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:29 PM ----------

In reply to the loose pad the whole action was moving the front pad set was re done as described in an earlier speel as per pics I sent in My BSA Shirley T to my mind when I stripped it as it was a bit gunky I think my not friend had shot it as described with a loose action and the draws looked flaired and smacked around so it is off to the Dr's watch this space.