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    Peter, what indicates to me that its a C No67 is the windage turret which can clearly be seen and is on the opposite side to that on a No32.

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    Or is that long shiny(?) bit the rounded side of the worn/brassy turret housing?

    No doubt the wisdom of the crowd will enter the fray now that we've opened the door Simon.

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    Hmmm!!! Anyone a dab hand with photoshop or photo enhancement of any kind for that matter?

    IIRC the actual film clip only lasts for acouple of seconds but maybe if someone can find it there might be a better shot of the weapon in another frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Hmmm!!! Anyone a dab hand with photoshop or photo enhancement of any kind for that matter?

    IIRC the actual film clip only lasts for acouple of seconds but maybe if someone can find it there might be a better shot of the weapon in another frame?
    If someone points us to the video, we'll see what we can do to enhance it...

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    To be honest, and it is rather grainy I agree but that looks distinctly like a front ray shade with a different colour of material/brass(?) on the first 2" of the telecope tube. Note the 1" or so gap between the rear of the ray shade and the turret. Looks like a Mk1 or 2 to me on that basis.
    Warren agrees with you Peter.

    The confusing thing is, it looks to me like it has a turret on the right side...and you can't flip a No 32 scope over as it has that alignment screw that engages the mount.

    I suppose the negative could be flipped? Don't think so though.

    Frustrating picture...on a number of levels.

    They do look like a pretty good target for a burst of Bren Gun fire though. 3 in 1.
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    Ah, you have raised a very interesting point there Cantom. Not a lot of people know this BUT when the L42 was being developed, the original L1A1 telescopes were going to be rotated clockwise through 90 degrees in the bracket and the cradle/cap were to have been adjusted to allow the anti rotation stop screw to sit between the two. This would have meant that the now deflection drum would have been the RANGE drum and the now range drum would have been rotated through 90 degrees to become the new right hand side facing deflection drum.

    In fact, the original engraving spec was formulated to show the new designation on the left side so that when rotated through 90 degrees, the newly engraved markings would be at the TOP!

    But there was a problem......... THere wasn't a great deal of money for this project and not to be too unkind - as you'll see from the dire state of the woodwork - the L42 was done in the cheap! 1000+ new range drums/slipping scales were one thing that had to be absorbed. But the thought of another 1000 new deflection drums was quite another matter. (they would be upside down if transferred over don't forget.....) That, plus the modification to the front cradle and cap meant that you got what you got

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    If I remember from seeing the clip this photo came from it is very clearly a No32 MkI or II, not anything else.

    In "Without Warning" there is a photo on page 59 showing a sergeant with a cut down No4(T) over his shoulder which is erroneously described as being an "experimental 'scout' sniper rifle", despite the fact that the sliding brass sun shade and the characteristic wear to the rim of the range drum of a No32 are clearly visible.

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    Yep, the more I look at that pic the more it looks like a bog standard No32. I've also tried to do a visual comparison on known co-ordinates, the simplest way I can describe it is thus. The windage and elevation drums on a bog 32 when in its cradle are almost directly above the receiver ring, on the C No67 they sit slightly forward of the ring. In the photo it would appear that the drums are indeed above the receiver ring pointing, as Peter says, to a bog 32. Guess it's an optical illusion and to quote Surpmil "Sometimes we see what we want to see"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    Here you go then.

    [Oh, sorry, uploader failed again]

    Anyway, I see the C67 rifle at the S.I.M. has the front ring cap on backwards.

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../12/ybjd-1.jpg

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../12/394y-1.jpg
    Any chance you can show some pictures of the stock and the Forend of the rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    Here you go then.

    [Oh, sorry, uploader failed again]

    Anyway, I see the C67 rifle at the S.I.M. has the front ring cap on backwards.

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../12/ybjd-1.jpg

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../12/394y-1.jpg
    One other photo of the scope markings and does the scope match the rifle, thank you.

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