Egyptian Hakim

[Aragorn243]

Doesn't seem to be much discussion on here about them. Any thoughts? I've been researching them a bit and it seems the price has jumped significantly in the past couple of years. Looks like $400 is the bare minimum and odds are more likely to be in the $500-$600+ range.

Is it more desirable to have an early one that most likely saw combat or a cleaner later production. I guess that's up to the individual. 1956 production is first year. The wars were pretty short, days, so maybe not an issue at all.

I've read that you shouldn't use Turk ammo in them but am wondering if that is an issue of not setting the gas port adjustment correctly or a definite no no.

I can remember maybe 5-10 years ago when I wasn't much into milsurps seeing them at my local gun shop for about $200 and thinking they were one really butt ugly rifle but now with my more enlightened vision I think they look pretty nice and with the wood stock they manage to fall into my revised although secondary "list".

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[Cronic]

I've owned two over the years, they are a bit clubby, but both were very accurate, reliable rifles. To be honest, I can't remember if I ever ran Turkish ammo through either of them. I've never heard of any issues with this ammo in the Hakim, but as you say, there isn't a lot of info on these classic old rifles.

Price wise, they are definitely going up. They aren't common up here but , occasionally do come up for sale. Generally they are in the $ 500 to $700 cdn range. On the plus side, most that I've looked at were in excellent shape. They are a unique piece of post WW2 firearms history . It's low production numbers mean it will just get harder to find, and more expensive, as the years go by. Great , now I've convinced myself to buy one lol.

Cronic

[Aragorn243]

When I start researching rifles, I try to look up problems and when I did a search on the Hakim, the Turk ammo seemed to be the most significant one. But it could have been an isolated incident that everyone talks about making it seem bigger than it is. I never specifically read anything bad about Turk ammo before. It's designed for the long barreled Turk rifles so it is going to be loaded different for sure.

But a more detailed site instructs on how to properly adjust the gas valve to prevent breakage. Says if the rifle is throwing the casings more than 6 to 8 feet, the gas port needs reduced. This site did not specifically mention Turk ammo in the Hakim.

Other issues with the rifle were damage to casings when extracted and stuck casings when using the laquered stuff.

The videos make it look like a LOT of fun. I could imagine going through a lot more ammo than I'm used to with one of these. Supposed to have almost no recoil due to the weight and the muzzle break.

[Cronic]

You're right about adjusting the gas valve, my first Hakim was throwing cases about twenty feet when I first fired it. It is easily adjusted though. There weren't any issue valve adjusting wrenchs available back then, or any issue accessories now I think about, so I made my own.

They are hard on brass, but that is just part of the design, I just learned to live with it. They are a lot of fun to shoot, and you're right about the lack of recoil, they're pussycats to shoot. One thing to be aware of is they are LOUD, you will not be popular with people around you if they don't have good hearing protection. I used to get a lot of filthy looks when I'd fire mine at my club. The only other thing with the Hakim, or any of the Lungmann variants is to watch your fingers !! I've seen a few nasty injuries to fingers when people who are unfamiliar with these actions use them for the first time , once your used to them however, its a good system.

I hope you have as much fun with yours as I did, they really are a very cool rifle.

Cronic

[Aragorn243]

I have an opportunity to get one, first year production, serial in the 2000's that is in good shape with a strong bore. Bore is a little dark, nothing terrible about it. Metal is probably 80-90% with the exception of the bolt cover which is probably 60%. Wood looks decent. Some dents but it's clean looking. It is complete as far as I can tell with the exception of a sling and no one seems to know exactly what is supposed to go on it. Even has a bayonet but that's not a big issue for me as I have one already in much better condition. I'm wondering what a fair price for that would be. Gunbroker doesn't have any with bids lower than $400 and even one of them is butchered pretty bad with a cut front stock.

I'm to the point where I have to try to get rid of a few things before I get any more.

[HOOKED ON HISTORY]

Saw a pretty clean one this weekend at $600. Interesting rifle.

[Aragorn243]

I'm sort of in a self imposed exile from gun shows for the time being. Hate doing it as I need parts but I don't know that I can go for parts and not come out with some other bargain that will finally push me over the edge with my very patient wife.

I need to focus on the "list" and stay on the "list". The Hakim is very tempting however. I need to sell some things.

[HOOKED ON HISTORY]

You surely need to keep her on the same team. At least you have someone to reel you in. My compultion goes unabated. M43 Mauser added this weekend. Very clean with what appears to be a pristine bore.
I did impose a bit of self disipline in passing on two less than stellar Sweidish Mausers and an over priced Swiss 1889. Perhaps there is hope for me yet.

[Anzac15]

Was browsing around and ran across this thread..just bought my first Hakim today. I must admit I knew almost nothing about these, other than they were based on a Swedish design. Nevertheless, in my never ending quest to own odd and little known military rifles, I convinced myself I needed one. This one was found in a pawn shop in Clayton, Ga, and they literally didn't know what it was. So I was able to score it for next to nothing. After spending all evening reading up on it, I'm really eager to get some range time with it.
I've read all sorts of opinions on these, some folks love 'em, some wish they'd never heard of 'em. But I'm guessing a lot of negative input is from people who have badly maintained rifles, or are just parroting what they've heard elsewhere. I stripped mine down tonight, going to spend the morning giving it a good cleaning, as it looks like it hasn't had one in a while. I'm pretty impressed with the build quality of it. It's hefty, to say the least. If you run out of ammo, it would make a pretty good war club...
A while back one would see these somewhat regularly at gun shows, but not so much now. And when you do, they're pretty pricey.
Would like to be able to determine DOM. There are several Arabic markings on the receiver, which ones would show the year?
After cleaning her, I'm going to take her to the range and annoy the other shooters with it. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

[Aragorn243]

Don't use Turk ammo. That is a big no no with these. Other than that, enjoy.