Monument Men

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

What I don't know is were they actually USGI carbines or not. I doubt they would have used authentic collectible carbines, so they probably were props, but extremely realistic.

I'm sure many of the weapons in movies are rubber. But if they will blow up $100K cars in movies, I don't think they care if they beat up a few $1K carbines. They are not collectible to them, just props. Small potatoes in their movie budgets.

[ChipS]

8 Examples of Hollywood Anti-Gun Hypocrisy - Guns Ammo

The pot is calling the kettle black. I subscribed to G&A every year for almost 40 years, until Dick Metcalf's 'Let's Talk Limits' piece in the December 2013 issue. Mr. Metcalf would have us believe we should not resist ALL of the well meaning governmental regulations intended to better regulate (read restrict) personal firearm ownership and make it more politically pallatible (sp?) to the left. That was it for me. I let my subscription expire this month and I will never buy G&A, nor any of the other Intermedia Outdoors, Inc. publications, again. It may be true that we cannot expect to retain forever the full freedoms granted in our Bill of Rights. There are Washington politicians in power now who would guarantee us NO rights originally granted by the Constitution. I will be damned if I will subsidize the leftists who would chip away what little true RKBA freedom we have left until we wake up one day as unarmed 'subjects' rather than lawfully armed citizens. Anyone who thinks it can never happen in the blink of an eye just talk to an Austrailian.

G&A quickly scambled in the January issue to try to plug the holes left by the Metcalf article. But as far as I am concerned the whole organization is guilty and repentent only because it may cost them readership. Metcalf did not say anything the organization did not condone, the reader reaction to which they simply misjudged. I will dearly miss Gary James articles on historic arms, and many other features in G&A. I will miss the magazine but I know they will take little note of my leaving. Hmmm...Maybe I'll be audited by the IRS now - stranger things have happened. ChipS

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

Gentlemen, lets keep the politics out of this. We are here to discus and learn more about our hobby. Trending from a movie that showed carbines into politics has taken us off topic.

Thanks

[ChipS]

Sorry about that. You're right.

[DaveHH]

I spent a day at Duxford in 1996, could have spent a week. Was lucky enough to see the only flying DB601 engined ME 109 (an F ?) in the world flying that Sunday. The guy flew it around for 30 or 40 minutes and what a sound! Then he landed it and took a Spit up for a spin. Duxford is absolutely the best collection of WW2 aircraft in the world. The IWM in London is great as well. Too bad we don't share a common language.

[Gil Boyd]

Vat doo uo meen, vee all schpeakadee Inglis

[jmoore]

Was lucky enough to see the only flying DB601 engined ME 109 (an F ?) in the world flying that Sunday.

On the ground, it's supercharger sounds like one on some diesel engined semi trucks. Weird whistling sound. Took me a while to figure out it was the Bf109G that was producing the racket. (We were working on an unfortunate Tomahawk at the Fighter Collection that week. No airshows on, but a fair amount of good flying anyway!)

[Gil Boyd]

The close up weapons were real he tells me with rubber ones in the background as stated earlier.

[browningautorifle]

I saw the movie tonight. Don't quite understand what all the roobah is about. They had three carbines, one Thompson, one M1 rifle, one #4 rifle and an assortment of .45s including one 1917 revolver and a Webley I think. Considering there was only about 7 of them the weapons TOE was about right. They're a second line unit so carbines would be the dress of the day. At one point you can see George Clooney wearing a D bale helmet...? Neat! The straps are hideous though. Most of the 1916 holsters are obviously made for the movies, two M1 rifles on the shoulders of GIs loading a truck are definitely cast rifles...the Germanicon speaking driver they procure has a high hump gas cylinder lock on his M1...Let's not get into mistakes on the German equipment and uniforms...

Already knowing the story, I'd like to have that part of my life back if I could...that hour and 45 minutes...not a plausible story line at all. Old fat guys recruited to do a job they actually had young combat age men do...Clooney directed it...

[Aragorn243]

...not a plausible story line at all. Old fat guys recruited to do a job they actually had young combat age men do...Clooney directed it...

It is what it is. The movie was portrayed in huge summary form but that is pretty much how it happened and who did it. None of these men other than the Private that drove them around were soldiers. They were old, fat, out of shape middle age and older professional men that were experts in their fields. There are only 345 total individuals known to have participated in the MFAA section, and most of them were not assigned until after the war was over and the military was no longer concerned with saving lives over art. They were from 13 nations and many had very minor roles and were attached for brief periods of time. Those portrayed in the film were the primary men involved with this, those with boots on the ground, searching and hunting during the time when combat operations were still occuring.

I tend to pick up books that deal with odd topics and this is one of them. Tried to talk the wife into going when it came out but she was reluctant. Surprised her last weekend just by taking her and she was crying halfway through the movie and wanting to buy the DVD as soon as it comes out when we left the theater.

Having read the book, I thought the movie just didn't feel quite right. It was good but you just can't adequately cover a story in a two hour movie sometimes and that's what this felt like to me. Too brief, too fleeting.