1933 Trials sniper

[jmoore]

The thing that would make me want to put the hairy eyeball to this rifle is that the magazine cutoff remains after at least on complete rework. Seems odd. But I'm not currently in the market, so I'll let those more involved spend the time.

[Brian B]

Thanks for all of the positive debate. It has been eating at me a while and I wanted to at least vent a little about all the posts to live auctions. I am certain that this rifle will bring more money now that it has been posted here on the forum. I realize that it will bring what it is worth at an auction, but the second part of the equation is how many people attend the auction. In this case, there will now be more potential bidders and the price will most likely rise higher than it would have.

jmoore, I also thought it strange that an FTR'd trial rifle would still have its cutoff.

[Peter Laidler]

Just another little point to ponder too............... Ask yourself just how many auction rifles and other odds and sods we have actually given the thumbs down to. Or those that we have actually flayed alive with our words of scorn or derision. I can think of those flanders flap thinggies recently (that I personally wouldn't give breathing space to....., mind you I'm not and never have been a collector.....)

Just food for thought as a sort of reminder of the phrase about cake - and eating it........

[jmoore]

jmoore, I also thought it strange that an FTR'd trial rifle would still have its cutoff.

The "hands on" advantage would be to first check it's the proper No.4 cutoff and not a No.1. (Can't make out clues for sure on this monitor, and the easy areas aren't shown well if at all..)

3 minutes of "hands on" is worth days of trying to discern stuff over the internet. That's worth major premium to me.

ETA: Sometimes even smells are important. Let me know when internet gun auction sites add a "sniff" feature!

[Roger Payne]

The retention of cut-offs on Trials T's is indeed an odd thing. One could even argue that they should have been removed as early as the conversion process, let alone at FTR., yet most of the Trials T's I've seen have still had their cut-offs present, even when FTR'ed, so I wouldn't be particularly surprised about that. But I would agree, I prefer to give any rifle I am contemplating buying a close Mk1 eyeball inspection to using even the best of digital photo's.

ATB

[tlvaughn]

Since my post created somewhat of an unintended firestorm, I figured I might as well throw my two cents out there as well since others have. As Doug has stated, this "is not open for debate", it is his site and his rules, my intent is and never will be to change the rules.

I am not naive in thinking that I am the only one in the world that knows about a particular rifle for sale, after all, it is called the World Wide Web. I, like many other, search the auction sites daily, and when I do come across a rifle I want/need, I know there are others out there that also want this rifle and I am prepared to bid against them to my maximum limit, but I do not announce it to the world, why would I want to invite unwanted competition? On the other hand, as a seller, I would obviously want the world to know about it, any one with any business commonsense knows that marketing helps sell, and we are free marketing for the seller.

I have no issue with others posting live auctions, my comment was sort of tongue in cheek, however, just like it is the right of members to post live auctions on this site, it is my right to not post any auctions until they are closed. The only question I have for those stating there are no issues with posting live auctions is this, if you came across a rifle that you wanted and knew you were going to be bidding on, would you still post the link to the auction? If you are being honest with yourselves, you will answer, "No, I would not".

With that said, I do not and never intended to bid on the 1933 Trials Rifle, so I have no dog in this fight, but I am curious as to what the final price tag will be. Good Luck to all of those that are bidding!

[Bindi2]

As i said i am happy for the world to know what is at auction i buy at auction. I dont sell i buy. The deepest pocket wins on the day. Listing to sell makes the game public property not private so get used to the game. I buy local,national and internationaly in person for all three and online for all three.

[rayg]

There is a positive thing about posting current auctions here, are that any problems, wrong parts, or any other negatives of the rifle are generally identified and discussed by experienced members here. Thus allowing for a better idea of what it's worth and if you should bid or not on it. Ray

[Ridolpho]

Personally I think it's a tremendous feature of this forum that postings identifying interesting auctions/ sales are encouraged. If, like me, you don't have time to sit on the interweb all day, seven days a week, the forum is like an intelligent search engine! Nothing is more frustrating than missing out on a crack at something you're after by virtue of simply not knowing about it. For example, a Trials T was listed on CanadianGunnutz early one morning this week but was gone by the time I brewed a coffee and turned on the computer.
Regarding the rifle discussed in this thread, could someone comment on the significance of the "TR" on the left cheek? I understand the origin of this marking on later No. 4 T's but fail to see why it would be present on one but not all converted No. 4 Trials rifles.

Ridolpho

[PrinzEugen]

As someone who's a collecter/user I'd rather get a bargain than not. I don't really have a problem with people posting auctions which are obviously correctly marked and anyone with saved searches will find, but it's those 'look at this badly described item I don't want to bid on it though' ones that get my goat as those can take no small amount of intelligent hunting to find and are the only real chance of a good deal. Top market rates is NOT (for me) the way to get my hands on the gear.
On this rifle - it certainly has something of a sheen to it - do you reckon it's been refinished (metal) and varnished (wood)?