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    Late model number 4 mk1, what do the markings tell me, South African? Where made?

    I've been researching stuff about this rifle, but am not sure about much. I understand that it is a February 1949 made gun, and believe it has South African markings, but not sure. What does the barrel markings mean? Can I tell if the upper wood has been replaced? What does the little crown looking marking on the receiver mean, under the broad arrow in the "U"?

    Thanks for any help, I'm new to the Lee Enfield Riflesicon, and understanding them is a bit overwhelming.
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    busyfixin: Additional photos of the left side action body and "cheek" or butt-socket would help as that's where the main manufacturer info is typically found.

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    Sorry, I had a couple pictures of it, but apparently they were left out when I uploaded them.

    Heres another picture of the side.

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    (F) serial prefix is Fazakerley, Liverpool, UKicon manufacture.

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    The U with the arrow is South African mark. The crown I believe is just an inspectors mark. Might be a metal proof mark. I can't remember which.
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    Many thousands were imported by Interarms in the late 80's and early 90's direct from South African War Reserve Stores. I had 400 or so of them with some Savage and Long Branch rifles mixed in. All were very nice sans some handling marks and honest wear. It's a good one. Enjoy.

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    Brian just near the ruptured case gas port I can see some info can make out Canadianicon I think any clues there bloke!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    Brian just near the ruptured case gas port I can see some info can make out Canadianicon I think any clues there bloke!
    Are you talking about this:

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    IAC is Interarms, see more here :

    Enfields Imported by Interarms of Alexandria VA

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    Troy and David have it. Interarms import marks.

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