Great Day to Acquire a Carbine

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

That would be called the unit "scrounger". We all had one.

The military couldn't operate without rules, regulations, and a chain of command. As for how repair or replacement went for us. If in the field your weapon jammed, hit by a mortar, whatever, there were always others lying around to grab up. You took it and the stores off the previous user. I'm sure that wasn't procedure, but it's what happened.

[bonnie]

May I add to this difference of opinion? As a parts clerk in the 6/10th FA in Ger. 1973-74. I had 2 sets of books [requisition orders] one for inspection and one for keeping parts that were needed to keep unit functional. I had a trailor full of parts not on my books, also parts that we needed to function. In my opinion; personnel in charge of supply and demand did what was nessasary to keep parts needed to keep their unit functional. That is what I did and trained for by the person I replaced. IT WORKS! GK.

Made me grin! A Cav unit disbanded a jeep recon platoon. They called and asked if I wanted any jeep parts before they buried them. Had all the new tires, ignition points, etc., I could have wished for. Of course when an IG inspection came around I had to get it all carted away and safely hid. One day the CO visited unannounced and found my stash. He commandeered a new set of tires and went away happy.

[shadycon]

garretbragg12;I got off the original thread. THAT IS A GREAT LOOKNG FIND! GK

[DaveHH]

Sorry for being testy. Uncalled for.

Our battalion in Vietnam had a conex box that was full of contraband. There were weapons, enemy weapons, pistols, grenades, ammunition, extra C rats that we stole from time to time, None of this was on our T.O.E. If you needed an extra 1911, you went to the box. I would bet the farm that every outfit in the war had the same thing going.

I agree with Chris, this looks like a beautiful example stuck in someone else's stock. Great find.

[garrettbragg12]

Sorry for being testy. Uncalled for.

Our battalion in Vietnam had a conex box that was full of contraband. There were weapons, enemy weapons, pistols, grenades, ammunition, extra C rats that we stole from time to time, None of this was on our T.O.E. If you needed an extra 1911, you went to the box. I would bet the farm that every outfit in the war had the same thing going.

I agree with Chris, this looks like a beautiful example stuck in someone else's stock. Great find.

Thanks for all the great words and info guys! This is why I love this forum.

Dave, and anyone else who bet on stock replacement, if you guys were betting men, would you say the stock was swapped during the war, or by someone trying to correct it? I know there's no way to tell, just curious.

My question is, if trying to correct a carbine, and paying the money for an "I" stock, why buy one with a rebuild stamp?

I also don't know if y'all can see it, but the RIA stamp covers the crossed cannons cartouche.





Another question, how tight do you guys usually tighten your barrel bands? I don't want to over do it, especially with a type 1.

[DaveHH]

I have the exact stock on my NPM with a .U. rebuild stamp. It is just too difficult to say when the stock was changed. Or even if it was changed. When you run into an original configuration carbine EVERYTHING is right. There usually is no doubt. Your metal looks all the same which is a plus. The stock is what it is. It obviously wasn't on the carbine when it went through a rebuild, since it shows no sign of being rebuilt.

[tschie]

Thats a nice one!! About a month ago I acquired An Inland Carbine ,Date stamp 6-42 SN 1205,I dont think its ever been rebuilt or refurbished. Ive got pics posted at imgur.com/a/vJA1Y. Im in the process of fill in out a data sheet for The Carbine Club.
Again Nice Rifle Tom

[garrettbragg12]

Thats a nice one!! About a month ago I acquired An Inland Carbine ,Date stamp 6-42 SN 1205,I dont think its ever been rebuilt or refurbished. Ive got pics posted at imgur.com/a/vJA1Y. Im in the process of fill in out a data sheet for The Carbine Club.
Again Nice Rifle Tom

I need to fill a sheet on this one! Where did you get your sheet?

[Bill Hollinger]

Thanks for all the great words and info guys! This is why I love this forum.

This is why I do too! And it is because of all the great folks here who when they make mistakes or testy comments they are man enough to step up and say hey, "I screwed up". Great site, great people! Thanks to all of you. Carry on

PS, very nice carbine you have GarrettBragg12. Thank you for the nice photos of it.

[firstflabn]

Sorry for being testy.

Thanks, Dave. You're alright with me. We usually agree strongly, but if we do that too much, there'll be talk. Safe to start a new streak of "...yeah, what he said."

I stumbled onto something related to this subject while on the way to look up something else (seems to be my best research technique). CCNL 267 has RIA carbine rebuild quantities by time period.

The work starts in Jan 1944 (after issuance of MWO-1), so if you're inclined to give weight to my theory, then this date is significant. (MWO-3 and maybe even 4,5, and 6 could also enter into this, but I'll put that aside for now). Work continues through FY57 with highs and lows (and 11 months in the '50s with no info found).

Anyhow, a little under 5000 carbines rebuilt (or processed in some manner) before VJ-Day; over 700,000 after VJ-Day. Absent any other info, that's pretty steep odds for any 'what if' scenario to overcome.

I have another crackpot theory (no, it doesn't involve alien abductions), but I'll have to hold off until the next CCNL comes out as that issue describes a rebuild operation I had never heard mentioned. Maybe it's new to everybody else as well. Don't get your hopes up, though the odds are better than 140:1, there's no way to confirm it - so just another scenario to ruminate over.

OK, Dave here's some more procedural mumbo jumbo...


(just kidding - for now).