Remington mdl 11 sportsman Navy marked

[grey ghost]

Hey guys, today I found a Remington Model 11 sportsman. It is Navy marked as follows ( Property US Navy ), it is on the left side of the receiver above the water fowl scene. The butt stock has the ordnance wheel with FJA cartouche, it is not checkered. The top of the barrel is US stamped with the ordnance flaming bomb. It has a cutts compensator. The barrel date is XMM (Dec. 1943 ) with a side ways heart next to it. It has CYL with no choke identification. My question is, were all of the recievers marked with US and the flaming bomb. This gun does not have the US and flaming bomb on the left side of the receiver. The serial number of the gun is 45860X. The gun is about 95%. Thanks Steve

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[browningautorifle]

We'd love some pics of this bad boy...

[emmagee1917]

My 481xxx , 484xxx and 498xxx all have flaming bombs and US . That being said , none of mine are Navy marked . The Navy took many S/W victories in WW2 . At first they were marked Navy , but in mid-war the Army took over all those inspections for all branches and the Navy marks went away . This may be the case here , the Navy might not have the bomb and US . Others will need to chime in.
You say the gun has no choke mark , but then you mention CYL . CYL is cylinder bore , and if it has it , it should not have a cutts . Cutts have a changeable tip that determines choke . As such , any barrel marking on choke would be meaningless . If it truly has no marks on choke at all , then the cutts is original factory . If it has cyl , then the cutts is an add on . Being a three shot Sportsman , it was prob'ly a recreation gun .
Chris

[Tom Doniphon]

The early Navy contract Model 11s are in the serial number range of grey ghost's shotgun. They are the 3 shot "Sportsman" model and are marked "Property U.S. Navy" on the left side of the receiver and on top of the barrel. They will have Cutts compensators, a blue finish, and the game scene on the receiver. Early guns like this will only have the Ordnance crossed cannons mark on the stock (no FJA).

The barrel may have been replaced on grey ghost's gun due to the fact it is not marked "Property U.S. Navy" and is a Dec. 43 barrel which is likely too late for the serial number of the receiver.

You can pull the buttstock off to see if it is serial numbered to the receiver.

[grey ghost]

Hey, I do not own the just know where it is. There is no property US Navy on the barrel. IT does have CYL but no designation like full or mod. Should it have US and flaming bomb on the left side of the receiver? Steve

[grey ghost]

Hey guys, sorry for all the questions. When did FJA cartouche start on the gun? Did all of the Navy guns have Property US Navy on the barrel? It is a cool gun, I just want to make sure it is correct. Thanks for the help. Steve

[emmagee1917]

It looks to be an early navy reciever with a later cyl choked barrel replacement front half with an add on cutts comp . Not " as-left-factory " original but possibly saw service in WW2 in this condition .
Chris

[Tom Doniphon]

FJA marked stocks start showing up in late 1942. I've never seen nor heard of a Model 11 as early as the subject shotgun that had the FJA stock mark on it.

Only the early Navy guns that are in the serial number range of the subject gun are marked "Property U.S. Navy". There is no "U.S." mark or Ordnance bomb on these early guns. The later training guns with Cutts compensators in the 700,000 serial number range are not Navy marked. Rather, they have the "U.S." mark and Ordnance bomb mark on them.

You can check to see if the stock and barrel are original to the gun. Original stocks were serial numbered to the receiver. You have to remove the stock to see the serial number on it. The barrels are also serial numbered to the gun. You have to breakdown the gun and remove the barrel assembly to see the number.

[grey ghost]

Thanks for all the help. What year do you think the receiver was made? Steve

[Tom Doniphon]

The receiver probably dates to somewhere around the Spring of 1942.