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    1957 National Matches

    I know this is a long shot but no harm in asking. Would anybody have or know how I could get a copy of the 1957 match bulletin with a listing of the high power competitors for that year. Herschel, who posts on the CSPicon forum did have the 1958 bulletin, so maybe there is hope.

    Reason I am asking is that I have a N.M. rifle that was purchased by a M/Sgt. Zimmerman at Camp Perry following the 1957 National Matches. I would like to get whatever info I can regarding him, especially his first name. I believe, when he competed in the 1957 Nat. Matches he may have been a member of the Minnesota National Guard team. I only based that on the fact that, other than Camp Perry in 1957, the other entries in his Score Book show him shooting at Camp Ridley, a Minnesota N.G. Base.

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    You could try the Minnn. National Guard, but not likely they can or will help. A 1957 shooter would be how old today? 75-80? He may not be around anymore. Could you find a 1957/58 American Rifleman magazine. They always had the results and pictures of top shooters. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calif-Steve View Post
    You could try the Minnn. National Guard, but not likely they can or will help. A 1957 shooter would be how old today? 75-80? He may not be around anymore. Could you find a 1957/58 American Rifleman magazine. They always had the results and pictures of top shooters. Good luck.
    Thanks Steve. I did contact the Minn. N.G. R&P Team via Facebook but nothing. Thought they might have had some historical records but N.G. I have a copy of he American Rifleman from 1957 but they only mention the top shooters of which he was not one.

    All I know about Master Sgt. Zimmerman is that he is now deceased. To me 1957 does not seem so long ago LOL. I was in the Marine Corps in 1957 and am now 75 years old. As Sgt Zimmerman was a M/Sgt in 1957, I suspect he would be at least 10 years older than me. The last dated entry in his Score Book indicates he last fired competition in 1962, but not Camp Perry. I would think it was around this time he retired. May have been a WW2 vet. I have his military service number but that is not much help as the military now uses S.S. numbers and not being a family member, it is hard, if not impossible, to get any info from Govt. sources. I was thinking FOI but I don't even have his first name. He did sign the "Cash Sales Receipt" when he purchased the rifle at Camp Perry but I can't make out his first name. Oh well, the hunt goes on. Thanks for taking the time to answer. Joe

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    I have reviewed the 1957 National Match results listed in the October 1957 AMERICAN RIFLEMAN magazine. Only the winners of the various matches are listed.
    What I find interesting is that the winner of the Service Rifle Match using a 1957 NM M1shot a higher score than the Civilian Open Rifle Championship. This was with an M1icon which was not greatly improved over the Service Grade M1.
    National Civilian Open Rifle Championship
    Winner – Ammon E. Bell- 734 89V
    National Service Rifle Championship
    Winner - S/Sgt. Michel Pietroforte USMC – 738 78V

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    Yes, IIRC 1957 was the first time the M1icon outshot all the bolt guns.
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    Here is a copy of the announcement in the AMERICAN RIFLEMAN for October 1955. It indicates that you must be a member of a DCM affiliated club.
    Hope this is of interest.

    Ml RIFLES AVAILABLE


    _ AT present Caliber .30 Ml (Garandicon) rifles only are available
    to NRA members who are members of clubs enrolled with the Di-
    rector of Civilian Marksmanship. All stocks of rifles Model 1903 and
    Model 1903 Al (Springfield) as well as Model 1917 (Enfields) are
    exhausted and it is not anticipated that rifles of these models will
    become available. The following information applies to the purchase
    of Caliber .30 Ml (Garand) rifles now available:
    1. Nomenclature and stock number-Rifle, U. S., Caliber .30
    Ml, NM, BOOI-7266476.
    2. Equipment included-oiler and thong case; thong and com-
    bination tool or cleaning rod; brush; web sling; grease con-
    tainer.
    3. Price-$98 plus $2.85 packing and handling charges, f.o.b.
    shipping point (subject to change without notice).
    4. Basis-One rifle per NRA member who is also a member of
    good standing in a DCM-enrolled club.
    5. Where to submit purchase applications-Commanding Offi-
    cer, Letterkenny Ordnance Depot, Chambersburg, Pa., Attn:
    MISMA (ORDKE-OBB).
    6. What to include with application:
    (a) Current NRA membership card or photostat of such
    card.
    (b) Current DCM club membership card or certificate by
    club secretary or treasurer to the effect that applicant
    is a member of good standing.
    (c) Payment in full ($100.85) by certified check or postal
    money order, payable to the Treasurer of the United
    States.
    (d) Shipping address, if different from mailing address.
    (e) Stamped, self-addressed envelope for return of mem-
    bership cards.
    7. Shipping point-Rifles will be available only at Raritan Ar-
    senal, Metuchen, N. J.
    8. Shipment will be express, collect, unless otherwise instructed.
    OTHER SUPPLIES
    Ammunition and ammunition components-address all orders
    to Commanding General, Ordnance Ammunition Command, Joliet,
    Ill.
    Cleaning and preserving materials-address all orders to Com-
    manding Officer, Raritan Arsenal, Metuchen, N. J.
    Quartermaster items (target cloth, danger flags, special oil lubri-
    cation preservation)-address all orders to Commanding General, Co-
    lumbus General Depot, Columbus 15, Ohio.
    All other items (targets, target supplies, cleaning equipment, etc.)
    -address all orders to Commanding General, Ordnance Weapons
    Command, Rock Island, Ill.
    NRA members can obtain a complete price list of the equipment
    and supplies available, together with order forms, from National
    Rifle Association, 1600 Rhode Island Ave., N. VV., Washington 6,
    D. C., or Director of Civilian Marksmanship, Washington 25, D. C.,
    on request.

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