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    Here are the basics of my two Trials 4T's. IIR I'll add additional info when I can sort it out.

    1931. A2144. 4 click rear sight. Matching bolt with transverse striker keeper screw. Mag is a replacement but all other parts are original AFAIK.
    Scope serial on butt is indistinct but I think probably reads 4621. Rifle came to me sans scope & bracket, though with pads intact.

    1933. A0075. 6 click rear sight. Some replacement parts including bolt, though all appears to have been done long ago & probably whilst still in service.
    Butt original & rifle looks to have been fitted with scope no 3167. As with other rifle this one came sans scope & bracket. Body pads are original.

    ATB.

    P.S. Both have correct waisted foresight protectors & cut-offs. (Your post reminded me, thanks Blurred Edge!).
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    Hello, my Trials T details are :-

    1. A0242
    2. 1933
    3. No4 Mk1(T)
    4. No4 Mk1
    5. Rebarreled 1950's???
    6. SBN 165 original bolt
    7. No other marks on action, Large T on wood wrist below scope No
    8. None other than originals
    9. Receiver ring, bolt handle by serial No, barrel knox.
    10. No staking

    Also it has the correct pattern cut off fitted
    Unmarked bracket
    Waisted foresight protector
    Enfield 6 click sight elevation knob
    Forend not original but early type
    Magazine not original

    All I can think of for now
    11. No T stamp
    12. No 1035
    13. Watson Mk1
    14. Watson mK1 No 1035
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    Thank you Roger & BlurredEdge! BlurredEdge you seem to have one of the very few complete originals; do you have any history on the rifle if I may ask?
    "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." W.L.S.C..

    "None need deceive a people determined to deceive themselves."

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    No I'm afraid not, got it from a friend. Can't be too sure on originality as all the wood is heavily sanded with no markings left, it's early woodwork but not trials pattern bits.

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    Just to be a bit clearer on my previous rushed post (was at work), I think the butt may be original but heavily sanded,it as the marking disc and looks right. but the rest is post trials.
    As far as I know it came from a now deceased dealer, to another dealer to a friend of mine. All a good few years ago now.
    Regards. Matt

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    Just purchased no.A1515 will post some pictures shortly although apart from the stock all is original

    Sorry, but can't seem to load the photos up from my iPad. The rifle is a beauty, the only issue is that the original stock has been replaced with a long SMLE stock of a lighter colour, other than that the rifle is totally complete with all original parts inc the barrel. It has the No.1 mk.VI cocking piece and Mk. VI magazine. The other parts inc sight, cut off, woodwork, bands, waisted foresight, trigger etc are all EFD marked. I don't think this has seen any active service or use as the rifling is shart and crisp. The rifle is dated 1931. Looking to get a sling ideally dated around the same period if anybody has any ideas? Cheers, Steve
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    You need to put pics onto photo bucket or similar or I think you load them to your profile ??


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    I set the album to "public" for a bit. Root through and pull what info you need. Short on time lately!:


    http://s20.photobucket.com/user/dave...?sort=2&page=1

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    Just realized that you have my rifle info #A1374 listed under my name rayg but listed in the last remark column/area as "AKA Ryan". Please be advised that "Ryan" is not me but a different individual. Ray
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    Again I was never known as Ryan, (AKA Ryan), and unless Ryan had also owned the rifle at one time, that name should be removed to keep the information correct, Ray

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