Scotarms today.....

[bigduke6]

Anyone here at Scotarms today ?

I went along today to with the intent to purchase a few items, I was bidding on the No32 scope but had set my max, it went for £380 plus commission and VAT so total would be around the £500 mark.

No crosshair and post, when I say no post there was one there but not an original.....

The advertised A5 scope wasn't an A5, AFAIK, I think its a version/copy of the A5 only marking is X5 (I bought one on ebay some time back but wanted it for a .22 will post a pic some time), I gather the original would of been inscribed with Winchester etc? I,m just going by pics I,ve seen so correct me if I,m wrong.

Just wonder if anyone stayed and seen the Military rifles go through ? I was interested in the Schmidt Rubin .22 trainer but it dint tick all the boxes, the chamber didn't seem right (walls too thin) and was missing the loading platform.

The k98 type 4mm trainer looked a nice example also.

If anyone in forum land collects Enfield things in the original packaging then I,ve a good supply of hand guards front and rear in sealed boxes of five.

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[Alan de Enfield]

Had planned to go (and was actually in Newark) but family 'got in the way'

How much did the 10x No4 skeleton actions go for ?

[Promo]

I've read the description of the Winchester scope, it didn't say that it was an A5. It just said it's 5 x magnifaction. Probaly one of the brass mades where only the mount is Winchester marked? Real A5's and B5's are marked on top of the scope tube. How much did it sell for?

Regarding the hand guards, I believe you refer to the No. 4 ones you've bought? If not and you're talking about SMLE handguards, that would be better

[Simon P]

Anyone here at Scotarms today ?

Yep

I dropped out of the Hand Guards, as we have a thousand plus, but if you open the packs you may find some early Long Branch walnut examples in there.

we got the 4mm Trainer for a customer and it was a real nice example.

I had a look at the No32, no wire and the top of the post was flat i.e. not angled to a point.

Did you see the SKN actions this time, as they were drilled through the chamber and action.

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How much did the 10x No4 skeleton actions go for ?

From memory they were about £170 per lot

[bigduke6]

Simon, do you remember what the Schmidt Rubin .22 went for ?

Alan think Simon was right regarding the price of the Skelton actions, they were just bare so needed all the other bits, I was going to bid but to be honest just looked like a box of scrap, sorry should say two boxes of scrap, same bloke bought the two boxes.

Promo, the hand guards are for the No4, Simon would guess its a mixed bag, most are walnut of the boxes that are open, rear ones a mixed bag also but mainly walnut with grooves, no point in opening the rest until there ready to be punted out.

[Alan de Enfield]

Alan think Simon was right regarding the price of the Skelton actions, they were just bare so needed all the other bits, .

Bare, as in, No butt, no sights, no trigger / trigger guard ?

The ones I bought a while ago were complete except for the trigger guard, had a splodge of blue paint on the butt and allegedly came out of PH - after it closed down.

Why / how were the holes drilled thru the action ? - was it an attempt at de-acting them ?, Mike has always said thet he has checked with every local Police authority and they would not be classed as section 1 firearms just 'as they are', but only if they had SKN serial numbers to show they were 'official' modifications.

[Peter Laidler]

Just a very minor point but maybe you could mention to Mike, whoever Mike is, that now that the Skn No4 question/decision has been reached and tested in Court AND a precedence set, even if you cut 500 No4's down to the official spec yourself and they clearly didn't have the SKN number, it wouldn't get to court. They are incapable of this that and the other - or they're not! And if one isn't capable, then 500 identical ones ain't either! Like saying a car MoT tested in Leeds isn't roadworthy while one tested in Oxford is! The criteria is the same

[bigduke6]

Bare, as in, No butt, no sights, no trigger / trigger guard ?

As bare as a bears arse......

Just reading PL,s post, I seen a few DP no4s (L59A1) at the war and peace show all there minus the woodwork and fittings, they had been de activated to current spec..... Were quite cheap too IIRC, I,m guessing these are the ones that have come to light recently except they are fully clothed and price is a tad higher.....

[Surpmil]

Lyman bought all of Winchester's scope designs and parts stock sometime in the late 20s or early 30s - I forget which - and churned them out for another ten years or so. There were other similar down-market versions around as well, mostly for .22 rifles I believe.

[Simon P]

Simon, do you remember what the Schmidt Rubin .22 went for

I think it was around the £400