De Lsile Commando Carbine MKII Copy

[enfield 111]

I made one for the de lisle copy i posted based on the pics I have for the gun serial #1015. I think all the sterling guns had lanchester smg signts. Alot of the copies that have been made by individuals and by valkyrie arms use the enfield No1 Mk III
rear sight. I want to use a Lanchester so it will be as original as possible.

Hard to find in Canada

[Hal O'Peridol]

I suppose a rear sight for a Finn KP 31 might work?

[Vincent]

The sight you have on the gun looks like the correct two position Lanchester sight to me. It's the Mk1* sight, IIRC?

Attachment 58879

I am not sure how practical the Mk1 Lanchester sight really was. It's only a pistol cartridge after all. Even less practical on the .45 ACP De Lisle.

[enfield 111]

I made the rear sight on the gun I posted. It looks like it was and original lanchester smg sight that de Lisle used but it does not flip ie. he changed the interior notch cut in the sight and silver soldered it in place. As far as I know gun #1015 is the only gun with this sight on it.
The Sterling guns all seem to have been fitted with the adjustable lanchester smg sight with new gradations milled and stamped into them for the 45 acp cartridge.
For me it is all about authenticity and being as close to the original as possible.

[Warren]

Damned fine job and my compliments on your craftsmanship.
Here is a picture of the original DeLisle sight.
It is off a Lanchester Mk.1. The Mk.1* had the two position flip sight. If you want some good pictures of it let me know
Attachment 58881
I've had a chance to view most of the Delisle files, which are stored in London England at the National Army Museum when an old chum was in charge there...years ago.

[enfield 111]

Hi Warren
Thanks for the kind words.

Looking at the pics of the baffle stack you posted, it is different from the pics I am using as reference. Your picture has a solid baffle at the muzzle end of the stack that matches the muzzle end cap with bleed holes in the bottom. The original drawing of the de lisle has a split baffle at the muzzle end and three solid non-split baffles at the rear of the baffle stack two of them are within a brass tube within the suppressor tube and are smaller in diameter than all the other baffles.

I am not sure which is correct. I am making the baffle stack for my next de lisle copy that will be fully suppressed. It may make a difference in the overall db reduction of the suppressor if it has a straight solid baffle at the end of the stack.

Thanks

[limpetmine]

Any chance you might make a kit version? I'd go for the suppressed version in a New York minute.

[Peter Laidler]

Surely.......... If the .45" Delisle used the 9mm Lanchester sight with different length barrels and totally different ballistics, then the sights cannot be the same. Something has to be different surely. Or am I missing something? A bit like someone using a DeLisle with Lanchester calibrated sights might be missing something.

Warren isn't quite corredct in his assumption (Th 25) and I know that I'm being a bid pedantic here Warren, but early Mk1* Lanchesters also came with leaf sights. Saw loads of them but never saw a Mk1 Lanchester in my service. Mind you that's not saying much as we only ever saw then when they came to us from the ships based at HMS Terror the Naval Base or from the NOD at Sembawang to the big Base Workshop.

On the reality front, some of the Delisles used flip over sights so these repros could too and still be 'original' surely. On the reality front again, the chances of finding a bunch of Lanchester leaf sights is pretty remote to say the least. Not the sort of thing people would keep '......just in case'

[enfield 111]

I think that all the Sterling made de lisles had lanchester adjustable rear sights very similar to the enfield no1 mkIII.
The pictures of the ford made guns had a different sight altogether. I have no idea if they were made by ford or modifications of an existing sight they had on hand. If I can fund a lanchester adjustable sight I am sure I can fabricate it for any future copies of the sterling gun. I am not sure about kit guns I would have to think about it

[Peter Laidler]

Just as a matter of interest, what are the legalities regarding the manufacture of firearms per-se or more importantly, the manufacture of silenced weapons in Canada. They look likje short barrelled rifles to me or am I on the wrong part of the continent with that interpretation?