1903a1

[browningautorifle]

blanks with slightly less wood in the grip area

It's my understanding Jim, that the blanks for the new requirements came from stock blanks that had been surrendered to the US as reparations from Germany for WW1. ?? Since they were for originally cut for '98 rifles, that would make sense to me. Anyone here heard of that?

[emmagee1917]

No . But it is not right . When we went to the A1 pistol grip , new stock blanks had to be acquired . The old straight grip blanks went into storage . WW2 comes along with it's wood shortage and the straight grip stock blanks are brought out and placed in the stock cutting machines set for the A1 stock and the scant stock is the result.
Chris

[browningautorifle]

Thanks Chris.

[Johnny Peppers]

This is what the rifle looked like in 1903A1 configuration, as this rifle is a 1936 DCM purchase rifle.

As Chris explained, the stock duplicating machinery had been set up for the full pistol grip stocks, but when the stocks were needed the only blanks on hand were for the straight grip stock. Running the straight grip stocks on the pistol grip duplicating machine resulted in the "scant" stock. The dimensions on the straight grip and pistol grip stock are different, so the scant stock had the dimensions of the pistol grip stock, but not the full pistol grip.If you extend a line up the bottom of the pistol grip stock toward the trigger guard, this will result in the same appearance as the scant stock

For many years after WWII the scant stocks were known as "wart hog" stocks.

[Chuckindenver]

the first scant grip stocks were cut from blanks for the M1917s...
the rest made by Keystone, and other subcontractors were just made that way..

[Johnny Peppers]

The tiny pistol grip on the Model 1917 stock does somewhat favor the straight grip blanks cut on the C type duplicating machine. Springfield never made any Model 1917 stocks.

[Rick the Librarian]

the first scant grip stocks were cut from blanks for the M1917s...
the rest made by Keystone, and other subcontractors were just made that way..

Scant stocks made from M1917 blanks is certainly news to me.

[Johnny Peppers]

The scant stocks made by Springfield did not have the cut for the 03-A3 hand guard retaining ring.

[Chuckindenver]

i never said SA made 1917 stocks/
i said.
the blanks used for the 1903 scant grip stocks were done with left over 1917 stock blanks..
how SA got them? not sure..
cant remember if Ferris told me, or Campbell...but one of those 2 are the ones that told me about the scant grip stock ordeal..

[Johnny Peppers]

Remington also made the C stock for the 03-A4 rifles, but they too ran out of the larger blanks for the C type stock, and cut their scant stocks from straight stock blanks on the C stock duplicating machines.

The scant stock originated at Springfield Armory, and they had their own supply of stock blanks, just none for the C type stocks.