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02-03-2015 01:51 PM
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On the first one the flaming bomb adds a little sumpin 
It looks brand new 
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From the listing Winchester M1
carbine serial number 1092779 placing manufacture date October 1942.
Pretty funny is right, last Oct 1942 number stamped was on Halloween and it was 1,003,895. This receiver wasn't stamped until May 6 1943.
From the listing Winchester M-1 Carbine WWII Issue serial number 1278059 placing date of manufacture between Oct. 1942 - Dec. 1943.
The second one is better. Stamped Oct 26 1943.
Seems anything is fair game in listings. It has and always will be, buy the weapon, not the story.
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It's like they take a list of parts and assemble from there. Marks are to be...and they add those. First one looks brand new. That would be the first problem...someone's bidding them up though.
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you want funny---better sit down for this one
MUSEUM QUALITY Un-Issued M1 Carbine +All Gear : Other Collectible Guns at GunBroker.com
When I asked for pictures of the cartouche and sling well marks this is the answer I got, the only addtilon pictures he sent me were 3 that were already on the auction :
"Dear Sir/Madam:
I'll do my best to accommodate your requests. This was a hand down from my Grandfather who was in the Military & a vet of WWII, was wounded and came back stateside before the war was over and then passed to me. My father thinks he bought what he terms as a "Virgin" or "Un-Issued" version of the M1 carbine directly from the Inland Division Plant, which my Grandfather absolutely could've done since he was in the U.S. Army in I believe 1943 then was back stateside in 1944 from an injury (he got a purple heart). How he got it is not entirely clear to me as I got it many years ago and didn't ask a lot of questions as I was happy to get it and never thought I'd sell it. In fact if it weren't for me being on the brink of losing my business I wouldn't be selling it.
Anyway, I'm into more of the modern guns, so I've had two separate FFL Dealers that I've done business with in Indiana (one in Ft. Wayne & the other in Indianapolis). Both dealers gave me a lot of information & the one in Indy took it apart and said everything had matching serial #'s. Frankly I have no idea how to take it apart and had these photos taken by a friend who turns my ads into webpages to post onto Gb. I don't have near as good quality camera as he does (frankly I'm limited to my cellphone camera, which is nothing like the 35mm Professional Nikon Digital Camera used to take the initial photos), but I'll try to get the photos you want. Also bear in mind we're in the middle of a blizzard...
You're only allotted 10 photos on GB & it was difficult picking which ones to put up. I'm going to attach some others that weren't on GB that I did get from the guy who did the Webpage for me and hope it's on one of them. If not, and this is where I feel like a moron asking, can you tell me what it's supposed to look like (the cartouche wheel)? Also, I wouldn't feel comfortable disassembling the gun, but from my understanding the receiver holds a serial # that can't be seen without taking it apart, at least that's what I was told years ago by the dealer in Indy, who offered to buy it and asks about it almost every time I come in. If we weren't in the middle of a Blizzard I'd probably take it to him and have him pull it apart so I could get you a photo of the receiver and any other parts that have matched #'s. Here's the serial # that you can see part of in one of the GB photos (by pulling back the charging handle). This area says "U.S. Carbine, Caliber .30M1" & "INLAND DIV" & bears serial #: "6708530". I hope the other pictures helped. I also called the Ft. Wayne guy who's been in the business for 20+ years and he told me that he thought it was a "Virgin" M1 Carbine that was sold to one of the workers at the plant. That would fall along with my Grandfather as he was stateside by the time this gun was made in December of 1944. He also had a job in the military where he was checking guns at the plants in 1944, so that's how I know it's unfired and where I initially got the gun, granted it was 26 years ago when I was 16 and he was still alive. If he were here this would be much easier, but both my Grandparents have passed away.
Anyway, I'll send you what photos I do have that weren't posted on GB because I could only choose 10 (GB's limit, not mine). Hopefully you'll see it in one of those, because if not I'll have to use my cellphone camera to try to take a photo then upload it to my computer and send it to you.
Glad you asked though. You're one of 2 who asked this very same question about the cartouche wheel, so I'll give it my best shot as I really do feel like an idiot that I am not more familiar with the terminology and build of the gun outside of what my Grandfather and a couple of dealers (one a very good friend, the other I trust too though) told me...
Thanks,
Andrew
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What a load of sh*t...right from one end to the other.
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I like that the scope mount is included in the sale. It screws to holes drilled and tapped in the receiver I'm guessing??? OUCH! Yeah, this is pretty bad alright.
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Again, buy the gun, not the story.
Being rebuilt there shouldn't be any premium added. Add up what one figures the parts are worth. That would be a starting point. Anything added could add value, sling, mag, pouch, case.
No reason for someone to jump on everything they see. They made over six million, there are others out there.
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You win today.
I should sleep very well tonight after reading this bed time fairy tale.......... 
Guy should be selling used cars.
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Really unusual that it was accepted by Col. Waldemar Broberg who was transferred from the Hartford Ordnance District June 16, 1942, and accepted again by Brig. Gen. Guy H. Drewry who assumed command the next day.
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