Interesting Winchester Carbine

[chaosrob]

Mostly Winchester Parts with exception of the stock and trigger housing. No import marks but far from pristine.

Can anyone identify the barrel band type and whether it looks legit?
Anyone recognize the markings on the stock?

Any information is greatly appreciated

TIA

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[browningautorifle]

Interesting, sure needs a good clean up...

[Bill Hollinger]

That is a solid representation of a WWII carbine right there. Literally unmolested sans the trigger housing and stock which may very well have been mixed up during a cleaning party. Where has that poor ol' girl been residing? Clean her up and you have a very cool carbine. Thanks very much for sharing with us and welcome to milsurps.com .

[painter777]

Can anyone identify the barrel band type and whether it looks legit?
Anyone recognize the markings on the stock?

The barrel band is a Type I or Type IA (depending on the inner size of the swivel).
Found on WRA's with 2 usually barely visible weld spots.
Seeing your serial #, this type band was near its last use.
Wra started using the Type II (wider) band near your serial #.

Hard to make out your stock markings.
They do not look like any type of post war rebuild/Armory stampings...... The carbine shows no sign of ever being in a rebuild program.

Possible they might be a Units markings, but I'm guessing.

Any markings inside the left slingwell?
Or marking in front or under the pistol grip?

Cheers,
Charlie-Painter777

[chaosrob]

Thanks guys.

Hard to see in the pics but on the forward portion of the stock there appears to be a number "15" stamped and "SA". The hand guard is marked underneath with "M" and something else I cannot read. The stock appears to have been sanded and varnished at one time. It has a Saginaw recoil plate and I am not sure of the butt plate. There are no markings in the sling cutout.

The handguard is weird as well with the 4 pin holes on the left side, what would that be from?












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It came from a dealers lot sale, nothing sexy unfortunately. The metal is all in a bath right now to soak for a couple of weeks before getting a scrubbing. I am contemplating looking for a correct housing ans stock for this. I normally do not try to correct them but I almost think this one deserves it, what say the experts?

That is a solid representation of a WWII carbine right there. Literally unmolested sans the trigger housing and stock which may very well have been mixed up during a cleaning party. Where has that poor ol' girl been residing? Clean her up and you have a very cool carbine. Thanks very much for sharing with us and welcome to milsurps.com .

[painter777]

BTW, Your Barrel Band is real.

Stock stamped SA is a Springfield.
Long barrel channel: 4.15" long.
Known or often called a Potbelly or M2 stock.
Nice stocks for shooting.

Hand guard might be a M-U, Thought to be Marlin made for Underwood.

Best I can do right now.
I've done something and my screen is out of whack, with pictures and letters scrambled.

Charlie-Painter777

[chaosrob]

Thank you, I believe it is a MU. The opening measures .315" on the barrel band sling

Thanks for all the help

BTW, Your Barrel Band is real.

Stock stamped SA is a Springfield.
Long barrel channel: 4.15" long.
Known or often called a Potbelly or M2 stock.
Nice stocks for shooting.

Hand guard might be a M-U, Thought to be Marlin made for Underwood.

Best I can do right now.
I've done something and my screen is out of whack, with pictures and letters scrambled.

Charlie-Painter777

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

Type 1 band was .25", type 1A was .32" yours would be the 1A.

[chaosrob]

Thank you

Type 1 band was .25", type 1A was .32" yours would be the 1A.

[painter777]

Thx Jim,
Something happened to my screen, all mixed up and out of whack.
OK now.
Cheers,
Charlie-P777

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Those faint letters on the stock may have been a base or depot inventory/ID marking.

Pictured here is one with painted number:
Interesting M1 carbine pic

Still just a guess though.....

Should look better when cleaned, it deserves it.

Welcome to Mil Surps :-)

CH-P777