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    Cn I ship my lee enfield to a C&R FFL if it is PRE 1958

    I thought I saw that if it was pre 1958 it is considered to be in the realm of the C&R FFL holder and can be shipped without any background checks and another thing I was told if you break a gun down and ship the barrel one time and the stock another it can be sent as gun parts and no background or going to a dealer but direct to the buyer.
    are either of these true.
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    That question should be addressed to the ATFE... never accept legal advise from anyone you do not have on retainer. Check your NY state new "Safe" act.. you may not be able to ship anything to any one. That's the way it is in N.J. (and has been since 1966).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom in N.J. View Post
    That question should be addressed to the ATFE... never accept legal advise from anyone you do not have on retainer.
    Right ON Tom! While there are people who are qualified to answer this question on this site, I personally would not venture to give you advice. I strongly suggest (if you have not already done so): get your Curios and Relics Class 03 Federal Firearms License (it's quite easy as long as you are legally a "good guy."). The ATFE will provide you with all you need to know to answer your question.

    You can check: FFLNewsletter@atf.gov.
    You can download ATF Publication 5300.4 as a PDF. Consult the section on General Information. See:
    subsection 6: Canadianicon Firearms Information,
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    subsection 8: Antique Firearms,
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    If you have any questions, see page 202 for the local ATFE office or http://www.atf.gov/contact/field.htm

    IOW, go exactly by the law, don't waiver, don't skim, don't shade the rules.
    I'm not trying to be anal, just safe. My gun collecting license has paid for itself over and over again -- I wouldn't risk losing it or more dire consequences.

    I'm sure others on this site have other good advice. Some of the things your are testing could get you in trouble -- something you don't need unless .........(fill in the blanks). And please don't get into an argument about the validity or Constitutionality of the ATFE regs -- that's fruitless, foolish, and futile.
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    The barrel and stock are not the firearm, the receiver is. Do you mean the barreled receiver?

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    Not hard to figure out what I meant.
    I ended up going to the gun shop here and I can ship it to a C&R FFL holder with no problem.
    Thanks for the answers anyway.
    I want to sell it in a way but I have lots of others that I can sell.
    I put it in the bench and take pictures and then I change my mind.
    Everything matches and that I think,is why it is hard for me to let it go.
    You don't often see it with all matching numbers and in great shape and matching magazine.

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    The answer is simple, and you should look it up in the ATF regs. What defines a C&R?
    Any firearm that is not NFA or Destructive Device classed that is 50 years or more old qualifies as C&R. But look it up for yourself. And no, you cannot get around the laws in shipping a firearm, if the receiver is there then the gun is there.

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