Can this be from a Bad Parkerize Job

[imntxs554]

I was wanting ask y'all guys why this would happen. What caused this on a carbine . The picture is magnified, so it looks alot thinner some letters look very worn. I then found a picture and visited the site and said Amer-Lene done wrong can remove all letters or numbers like the second picture. Amer-Lene ? Plus the 2 pics are different colors, could this mean it was done differently ?

Frank

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[browningautorifle]

Both cases look like there was some over zealous polishing on the barrel ring. One's gone and the other was almost until there was some stamping done... The first one could be sand blasting but the pic makes it hard to tell.

[imntxs554]

Thanks Jim, Would a different pic help ? Im here right now before i pull night watch. Thanks

Frank
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[browningautorifle]

It's not that Frank, it just pictures in general. One's been cleaned off and the other just looks weak, whatever the exact reason. Then re-struck.

[INLAND44]

I found references to 'amer-lene' but I couldn't find out what it is or what its used for. In order to chemically remove markings stamped into steel, the chemical would have to dissolve enough steel to get below the depth of the markings. I don't think anybody uses anything like that in Parkerizing. Like already said, you're looking at two different carbines, one of which has been refinished at least once, which usually 'softens' the markings somewhat, and the other has had the markings removed, then it was refinished. The same gun can look different colors depending on the camera and available light. Parkerizing is particularly hard to capture as we see it naturally.

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

Any guesses on the serial number of the blank ring???

[USGI]

When Frank first posted this, I "Googled" Amer-Lene and found a couple of good hits. This is probably the best one - make sure you browse a bit to see all (6) occurrences. https://books.google.com/books?id=MD...r-Lene&f=false

Sure looks like an informative book! - Bob

[imntxs554]

Bob, Its a book i found a long time ago. It contains a lot of information its by John E. Traister its "A Complete Step by Step Fully Illustrated Guide to the Art of Gunsmithing Lock, Stock & Barrel. Im sure someone has seen or heard of him he has written over 100 books. This one i have is over 300 pages. But this is for people who do this and would like more info or different methods of doing what type of Parkerizing you like to do. This book contains about 11 chapters on all types of metal finishes. Thanks

Frank
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[Topfmine]

Interesting see a pre dip black solution, what's in it to make parkerizing black?

[INLAND44]

If you wished, you can take an item out of the Park tank, rinse it and put it in the blue tank where it'll turn black or any shade of gray depending on how long you leave it in. You can even do it with cold blue.