help identifying C1A1 scope mounts.

[furlongcustom]

well Peter, Look at the photos again, since you are so critical of them. There are 3 allen screws, not 4. There is also (2) dowel pins, one on each end to keep it from moving. It is not locally made, It is very obvious that it is a factory produced unit. It's too bad I don't have a camera that will produce a photo to your liking. I guess it is time for you to move along now, and not comment on my post any more. With your high post count, and overwhelming knowledge, and condescending remarks, I'd say, that I don't need your arm chair expertise any more.

[browningautorifle]

Think I'll join Peter then...

[furlongcustom]

Think I'll join Peter then...

Browning, I'm not sure why you feel that way. Your comments have been very helpful, and not negative at all. I have absolutely no issue with any of your comments what so ever.

[Peter Laidler]

That was a bit abrasive furlong and I don't take offence but to be honest, the first photos WERE crap and I couldn't readily identify the items or even pass sensible comment. So what do you want me to say? Go on, tell me honestly? And I readily admit to being a bit of a technological duffer when it comes to small-arms, but at least I am trying hard to improve

So, I miscounted the amount of screws……. And didn't see/notice the pins. But my opinion remains the same. The rotational forces on that alloy bracket caused by the heavy recoiling UK type Rank Precision SS20 IIW night vision would damage it - JUST as it used to do on our UK made L1A1 covers that mounted the same IIW.

I wouldn't mind so much but you picked our brains for info so you could cash-in on the covers - and then give me a slagging for giving/telling you the little bit I knew! Did you know that the slide was to take the RP SS20 L1A6/7 type IIW night vision. Answer please before you use the info you have gained from us to elaborate on your sales patter.

[furlongcustom]

I honestly know/knew very little about the parts, which is why I posted up asking for help identifying them. What I do not need, and will speak my mind about, are belittling comments about things being home made, and or being junk/weak. I'm not trying to discuss the engineering specs behind the piece, I'm trying to find out what they are, and what they may be worth. YES I want to sell them, and get some money out of them. I could just as easily toss them in the scrap bin, and destroy more potentially collectible items like others do.

your comments prove that you are an arrogant prick. I just wanted info on the parts... what I got was an education about who you are. If you don't like me calling you out on your comments, and standing up for my self, maybe you should trade your guns for a rainbow flag, and a peace symbol. If you think more words will prove you are of higher class... type away... Meanwhile I'll be selling some parts to some one who is looking for them, and they will be happy I took the time to figure out what they were, and pass them along at a reasonable price, instead of tossing them in the scrap pile...

[Peter Laidler]

Well….., that's told me! And not for the first time in my life and certainly not the last either. But the fact remains that even though you didn't appreciate the way it was given, you still used/will use our freely given knowledge/info to line your own pocket.

[tankhunter]

Furlongcustom, That sort of Language is really inappropriate for this Forum.
I observed that you have only just joined this website facility.
Peter is a very longtime contributor here. With MANY Years of Military Service Expierience behind him. He, as do other's & I include myself here. Give generously of our time & knowledge, to assist other collectors/ Novices/ Enthusiasts.
He is VERY well respected, & held in High esteem by all of Us here on MILSURPS.
Sometimes, the language & way it is delivered MAY come across as a little sarcastic.
that is the Military Way! If you had seen/ done/ Expierienced life & events in this way of Life.
As We have done, you would understand How this is.

May I add, that before you berated Him here Publicly. If YOU had bothered to have a small 'Trawl' though the HUNDEREDS of responses & Advice comments Peter has posted.
You too, would have seen that He Know's what He is talking about!

I have know Peter for a Number of Years. & as a Fellow Armourer. The type/ sort of Knowledge We share with Members on this Website. Can not generally be obtained for Free!

Now If you have only just Joined Us. & are 'Inexpierinced' at 'What We Do' here. I can understand you smarting a bit, when reading His post. But there is no excuse for the Insulting return that You fired at Him!
A Polite comment with regards to your feelings about his response would have elicited a more sympathetic return from him.

As you chose to abuse him here Publicly, Instead of going to the Private message facility.
And thrash out your 'differences' there.
And you wish to remain on this Site, & profit from our Expierience & knowledge.
May I suggest that an Public Apology would not go amiss?...................

[Peter Laidler]

I didn't take offense Tankie, believe me. Like everyone else who's married, I just take it on the chin and laugh it off as part of lifes great tapestry. It just galls me sometimes that when people ask for advice or comment and you give just a bit more than they asked for……….

The irony is that the UK IWS mount was a one piece casting spot welded to the cover reinforce and it STILL peeled back. So how the light fabricated one would fare is anyones guess!

Anyway, there you go. Just another day in another week! Have a great day from here in sunny hot SC in the US of A.

[CINDERS]

Geez and I thought I was a prickly customer and stirred the hornets nest with a stick, maybe Mr F.C (I love that acronym suits to a tee pity I cannot type their alternate meaning here!) would share his profits from the sale of the mounts to help this web site continue to give the populace sound advice. And Mr F.C took the time to as Peter said to silken up his pockets after he found out what the mounts were, good for you FC I bet you told the buyer "In my experience this is what they are ______ because I have all this knowledge!!!!" If you reckon Peter is arrogant then bloke you take the cake of shear impudence for your own gain I reckon Badger would like to read your comments, if it was me your type would not get past post #12.........

Just as a bit of a postscript ~ Mr F.C should take the time to look through the threads at what some of the clever people on this site (I am not one of them) can fabricate from scratch material and those mounts are not beyond their abilities though they will always be repros. One effort that stands out are the Sniper "T" No.32 scope brackets even though they are a repro they are so good and well made the MoD accepted them as good as the originals so you cannot get better than that.

[nzl1a1collector]

The Long NV Sight mount is a Pilkington supplied mount. Its a copy of the British Army's IWS mount which has a cast bracket.

Basically its a cheaper to manufacture commercial version Pilkington would supplied It can be seen in their brochures from the 80's.

As the others said the short one is for the Canadian C1 Sniper Scope. There are people looking for the Sniper mounts.