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    Yes, I remember breaker point ignition, and I remember it could be fixed without having to spend a fortune or involving technicians with scanalyzers.
    Of course.....it also required CONSTANT "fixing" and never ran as well as an electronic ignition that rarely if ever fails! FWIW, all of my restored "classics" that I drive have "Petronix" electronic replacement ignitions....the 66 Buick 425 Wildcat has an MSD with a custom-programed advance curve (that big old Nailhead just LOVES it!).....they just run better, longer, with NO futzing! Besides Ken....if you buy the software and a suitable cable, a laptop will scan your car and tell you EXACTLY what's wrong with it...then a well-trained monkey can fix it!

    I told you Ken....I just can't stand not knowing how stuff works! Nobody works on my cars but me....and I don't "spend a fortune"! Knowledge is power!


    I also see the forces of change working to revise the constitution, and it is my wish that they do not succeed.
    HARDLY the same thing.....not even close. This is a disingenuous statement and you know it!

    Change does not in every instance mean progress. If that makes me a Dodo, so be it.
    Your call! Your choice! And I'll keep my opinion of your position to myself ("E pur si muove!").

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    Of course.....it also required CONSTANT "fixing" and never ran as well as an electronic ignition that rarely if ever fails! FWIW, all of my restored "classics" that I drive have "Petronix" electronic replacement ignitions....the 66 Buick 425 Wildcat has an MSD with a custom-programed advance curve (that big old Nailhead just LOVES it!).....they just run better, longer, with NO futzing! Besides Ken....if you buy the software and a suitable cable, a laptop will scan your car and tell you EXACTLY what's wrong with it...then a well-trained monkey can fix it!

    I told you Ken....I just can't stand not knowing how stuff works! Nobody works on my cars but me....and I don't "spend a fortune"! Knowledge is power!




    HARDLY the same thing.....not even close. This is a disingenuous statement and you know it!



    Your call! Your choice! And I'll keep my opinion of your position to myself ("E pur si muove!").

    Well, John, it must be nice to know everything.
    Engineers, of course, never make any mistakes.
    As far as hooking a computer up to a car, forget it. Im lucky I managed to hook it up to 110VAC.
    I suppose you must marvel at those of us who managed to reach old age without knowing our butt from 1st base.
    I still maintain that change simply for the sake of change is nothing but an exercise in stupidity, or at best,an effort to separate the gullible from their money.
    I also believe that there are a great many things that should not be changed, others that cannot be changed,and there is no need for anyone to try.


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    Just a comment, Ain't nuthing deader than a dead transistor. And they don't replace that transistor, but rather they sock you with a whole new circuit board at very high price!

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    .I suppose you must marvel at those of us who managed to reach old age without knowing our butt from 1st base.
    Naw....just used to dealing with my Dad! He built his first computer when he was in his 70's and can do anything with one that I can. He's 86 now, can't see worth spit and is kinda frail....but he's re-formating a hard-drive as we speak! "Old Age" and "ossified" aren't necessarily synonyms.

    Oh...and just to get you even further PO'ed....Pop's an engineer too....so was Grandpa....so are two of my 4 sons!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Sukey View Post
    Just a comment, Ain't nuthing deader than a dead transistor. And they don't replace that transistor, but rather they sock you with a whole new circuit board at very high price!
    "Some people insist that it's wrong to place all of your eggs in one basket, preferring to spread them around. This is a fundamentally flawed concept! It is far better to place all your eggs in one basket, and THEN WATCH THAT BASKET!" S.L. Clemens

    Oh, and John.....a "dead" condenser in your breaker-point ignition is every bit as "dead" as any transistor (or in the case of the Petronics, an IC!) and you're just as much a pedestrian with either one! The difference is that while your nearest FLAPS may have a replacement Petronics in stock.....I guaranty you they'll have to order that condenser!

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    "Oh...and just to get you even further PO'ed....Pop's an engineer too....so was Grandpa....so are two of my 4 sons!"
    John, you assume too much. Im not POed at all. We merely share a difference of opinion.
    One of my good friends is an engineer, and there isnt much that he cannot do. He will turn his hand to just about any task.
    I also have differences of opinion with him, however.

    "People take different roads seeking fulfillment and happiness. Just because they are not on your road does not mean theyve gotten lost"

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    Devil Dog, Threaded Mode

    Devil Dog. Towards the top at the right you'll see a button that says "Display Mode". Click that then click "Thread Mode" and above the posting you'll see a thread similar to what was on CSPicon. Click on those threads and it'll take you through the messages rather quickly. If you leave then later come back, click on the thread you haven't read rather than scrolling through all the posts. It doesn't give you the threads from the entire forum, such as M1903, but on the current topic you selected.

    Answering in thread mode also allows you to answer/respond to a particular post rather than having your post go to the bottom (like I responded to yours).
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    John Kepler - I tu were a enginear an still cain't spel it. Software was my game, and I understand the need to attempt to stay at least half a step ahead of the jerkoffs who enjoy nothing better than to make life miserable for everybody else.

    I still enjoy working offline with my Osborne I. Those were the days!

    Remember Wordstar, and Supercalc which would "Hotlink" updating data as you changed it in one it would automatically update in the other, and these were products from two different companies. Microsoft was so proud to get Word and Excel to hotlink in Windows, but that was already Old Technology by the time they finally succeeded.

    I started with single sided single density floppy drives, upgraded to single sided double density drives, added a RAM Drive (WOW, the speed was phenomenal), and finally to double sided quad density drives. I could have Wordstar, Supercalc, a spell checker, Fancy Font (all of their Fonts), dBase II, and who knows how much more, on one floppy (don't forget the CP/M operating system was on each floppy disk, too). Those were the days of TIGHT CODE! Now we have to go to DSL (*Damn Small LINUX*) for tight code, store it on a CD or even on a USB Pen Drive installed and ready to run even if you are running Windows.

    AHhhh YEESSSSS!

    Gyrene OFC

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    Wow, our first semi-****ing contest. Hurrah!

    I remember those cubes of wires and torsoidal (sp?) magnets for memory, the PDP-8's, my friends $600.00 Radio Shack with casette tape memory and I think 80K ram and my AST PC with an 8mhz clock and 20 meg hard drive. Whoo-oo we are flying now!

    I don't normally like change even the change I've caused. I like to know how things work and when things change I don't know how the new thing works.

    But this place seems pretty nice and with everyone adding the tips they've learned as time goes by it gets easier to visit this place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrene View Post
    ...I started with single sided single density floppy drives, upgraded to single sided double density drives, ...
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    You brought back memories of those single sided disks. We would take a hole puncher, notch the other side and it worked.

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