Enfield in 7.62 x 54mmR

[Ridolpho]

Not that Big Dike, I was trying to counter ridolpho in thread 4. But it just seems like a good challenge to me.....

Peter: I definitely agree it's an interesting question. Some of the 7.62x54 surplus we're getting now is pretty good stuff (2011 manufacture Chinese, for ex.) and can be quite accurate. The query made to Big Duke was obviously from someone who wants to shoot a lot of rounds which says to me that the main issue may be not the feasibility of the conversion but, rather, the longevity of the result. There must have been tests, when the original 7.62 NATO conversions were made, of the likely service life in terms of rounds fired?

Another way to look at this might be the possibility of stripping the surplus 7.62x54ammo, and using the bullet/ portion of powder charge in .303 brass with non-corrosive primers. Would make for pretty fast assembly line production of cheap ammo, especially if, like me, you happen to have a few thousand pieces of once-fired .303 brass lying around. Regards.

Ridolpho

[browningautorifle]

stripping the surplus 7.62x54ammo, and using the bullet/ portion of powder charge in .303 brass with non-corrosive primers.

I believe that would work perfectly.

[bigduke6]

Peter: I definitely agree it's an interesting question. Some of the 7.62x54 surplus we're getting now is pretty good stuff (2011 manufacture Chinese, for ex.) and can be quite accurate. The query made to Big Duke was obviously from someone who wants to shoot a lot of rounds which says to me that the main issue may be not the feasibility of the conversion but, rather, the longevity of the result. There must have been tests, when the original 7.62 NATO conversions were made, of the likely service life in terms of rounds fired?

Another way to look at this might be the possibility of stripping the surplus 7.62x54ammo, and using the bullet/ portion of powder charge in .303 brass with non-corrosive primers. Would make for pretty fast assembly line production of cheap ammo, especially if, like me, you happen to have a few thousand pieces of once-fired .303 brass lying around. Regards.

Ridolpho

It was suggested to him as he doesn't reload anymore, I wouldn't say he would go through a lot of rounds either just the fact off shelf .303 now is around £70 and the 54R surplus is around £34, one years shooting turns to two years.......but again a Mosin Nagant can be had for around £220 it is cheap shooting, still wonder if a No4 is viable though ( maybe its the aesthetics that appeal to him) I,m still looking for a PU Sniper myself, seen a nice PEM Sniper but the owner doubts its mount.......still a good deal as its got an original scope.

[Ridolpho]

off shelf .303 now is around £70

bigduke: Please tell me that's not for a box of 20! If it is I can understand the interest in 7.62x54.

[bigduke6]

Not now but maybe in the in the future...... it was based on 100 rounds.

[CINDERS]

Just as well its not 505 Gibbs your'e wanting to shoot as they go for $600.00+/AU for get this 20 empty cases if he wants a No 4 why not just buy a 30 cal barrel blank chamber it for the round whack a scope on it and go from there me all I can see is a black hole developing will they strip from a 303 mag etc, do they fit the stripper clips if not more mags to buy! cause as sure as eggs once you get a fiddling with a tried and true item other stuff goes astray. Me guess I am just to plain I would buy a Mosin.

[bigduke6]

Me guess I am just to plain I would buy a Mosin.

Where's the wild colonial sense of adventure gone ?

[Robert303]

What happens when the 54R either dries up / gets hit with 'Anti Dumping Duty / gets bought up by panic buyers reacting to President Trumps new 'Anti Commie buying from legislation' or what a former British Prime Minister described as 'Events Dear Boy, Events.' If you can guarantee to predict price differentials in the next two to three years you should be earning enough not to have to worry about the cost of running a Lee Enfield in 303 !

[Vincent]

What happens when the 54R either dries up ......

I guess it will be like when all the cheap surplus .303, 7.62, Tok,,, etc dried up. I will be able to look back and say it was fun while it lasted.

[bigduke6]

What happens when the 54R either dries up / gets hit with 'Anti Dumping Duty / gets bought up by panic buyers reacting to President Trumps new 'Anti Commie buying from legislation' or what a former British Prime Minister described as 'Events Dear Boy, Events.' If you can guarantee to predict price differentials in the next two to three years you should be earning enough not to have to worry about the cost of running a Lee Enfield in 303 !

Believe me Robert I had gone through everything to try and put him off (still might as I,ve done stuff in the past and got nothing but a " sorry changed my mind") but this is more of a challenge than anything and when you look at how many Nagants were made plus other firearms that used the 54R and are still in use I,m guessing there is a lot more years of surplus left.... in fact I,ve just ordered a few hundred surplus rounds while I wait for an original Nagant PU sniper for myself lets hope it doesn't dry up over night.....