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    Thanks Peter. I recently picked up a copy of your G. o D. book and working my way through it at the mo. Great read and learning a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desperatedan View Post
    I've got an old spec deact Sterling that's a "US..." numbered example rather than the more commonly seen "KR" prefixed ones. I imagine not as rare as a Faz made "UF..." example though.....

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    that's Exceedingly rare & I for one. Have never seen one marked like that before! nice.

    I have about Five different Sterlings in my own Collection. One has interesting selector markings. Instead of: Safe, Semi, & Auto.
    it is marked: 0 - 1- 34 on the Trigger mech housing.

    I know where the US market Carbine serial Number.1 is for sale. But the 'Shop' that owns it at present. has ALL it's items priced at ridiculously high/ Greedy Offerings!
    For mainly the Tourist Market. However, as the unwary/ unknowlegable continue to pay the extortionate amounts asked. The 'Practice' will Undoubtably continue!...............
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    In an ideal and honest world the rarest of the rare would be UF/Fazakerley made SMG's. This was because following the court case regarding the piracy of the Sterling Company property rights, the UKicon Government stated that it would not sell, lease, give, hire or in any other way dispose of the Fazakerley made guns it possessed. Alas, honesty and promises are not traits that governments then were renowned for

    The 1 - 0 - 34 marks were for Countries where English, even ubiquitous simple English like SAFE - FIRE or A-R-S were too difficult to comprehend

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankhunter View Post
    that's Exceedingly rare & I for one. Have never seen one marked like that before! nice.

    I have about Five different Sterlings in my own Collection. One has interesting selector markings. Instead of: Safe, Semi, & Auto.
    it is marked: 0 - 1- 34 on the Trigger mech housing.

    I know where the US market Carbine serial Number.1 is for sale. But the 'Shop' that owns it at present. has ALL it's items priced at ridiculously high/ Greedy Offerings!
    For mainly the Tourist Market. However, as the unwary/ unknowlegable continue to pay the extortionate amounts asked. The 'Practice' will Undoubtably continue!...............
    I used to live not far from that "shop" and I remember seeing that Sterling and its original cardboard box etc in 2012. Looking at the price () no wonder it's still for sale 3 years later!

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    What Mark/type of carbine is it? Can we presume that it is deactivated?

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    Peter it's a new spec deact and a Mark 6. From the ad the following info :

    "The magazine housing is marked :-

    STERLING
    SEMI-AUTOMATIC
    9MM CARBINE MK6
    No. SA0001

    Above the trigger is marked :-

    Sterling Dagenham UKicon
    CHICHESTER USAicon DALLAS TEXAS
    960 2178
    S73 A2"

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    The importer was LANCHESTER USAicon DALLAS, TEXAS. I have sn. 0193. Purchased new in the box, (which I still have), in about 1981-82 if memory serves. MIne still goes bang but hasn't for a while since I have a pre '86 sample FA L2A3/Mk.4!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    In an ideal and honest world the rarest of the rare would be UF/Fazakerley made SMG's. This was because following the court case regarding the piracy of the Sterling Company property rights, the UKicon Government stated that it would not sell, lease, give, hire or in any other way dispose of the Fazakerley made guns it possessed. Alas, honesty and promises are not traits that governments then were renowned for

    The 1 - 0 - 34 marks were for Countries where English, even ubiquitous simple English like SAFE - FIRE or A-R-S were too difficult to comprehend
    Pete, Mine is a Fazackerley manufactured example. I am only too aware of how rare they are on the Civy Circuit! I searched for MANY years to find an Ex Brit Military specimen! It is the Only one todate, I have encountered. For as you are well aware also.
    If they didn't get chopped up & scrapped. The rest made it into War reserve Stocks!

    That make perfect sense on the Numerals marked Sterling also. I got it from Tony budge a month before He sadly passed away.
    He informed Me at the time of purchase. It was one of a very small batch He obtained from a Saudi Armoury. It had never been fired since leaving daganham!....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidler View Post
    Alas, honesty and promises are not traits that governments then were renowned for
    And they STILL continue this 'Tradition', Today!!!!!!!!!!!!..........................
    Last edited by tankhunter; 09-10-2015 at 04:25 AM.

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    There are absolutely NO war reserve stocks of Sterlings Tankie. They were guillotined or torched. None were sold off either due to the 60's Court ruling as most of them were Fazakerley anyway with a 'no sale' embargo!

    Some of the NZicon guns that were sold as deacts/dewats in the UKicon were Fazakerley guns but that was because NZ inherited a lot of UK kit from the pooled stores situation in Malaya - as did the Malaya Police

    Re your last paragraph Tankiie...... I was hoping someone would add that sentiment......

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