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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    On the first post, middle picture, it looks like a partial "3" after the letter "M" and this looks like it's been stamped onto the curved edge, perhaps, causing the stamp to slip. Would this be the 3rd Battalion Durham Light Infantry? Didn't most regiments in the Britishicon Army have multiple battalions in WW1?
    As its a 1910 Bayonet, so pre war plus if its Durham school as Peter points out then I doubt its a battalion. Would say any school or cadet forces were relieved of there equipment at the start of WW1 so I,m guessing this was the change in marking,

    Regarding the DM I,m only going by notes I received many years ago......... very similar to ones below in the 2 links.

    http://www.martinihenry.com/units.htm

    http://oldmilitarymarkings.com/brit_bayo.html

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    I take those sources on board Geoff and others but as we now know and recognise, some of these outside reference sources were slightly - and sometimes seriously, er........, what's the word I'm looking for? Ah, yes...., 'found wanting'. as they didn't have access to the ER's and the like. Mind you, even the restricted intelligence based Quartermasters small-arms and equipment marks booklet had a couple of howlers as I recall (and found out later.....) One I seem to remember was RNG as Royal Nepal Government when it was in fact Rhodesia and Nyasaland Govt. But I suppose in truth it could be both. Anyway....., early to bed for a busy day tomorrow!

    Brian....., do you have that Equipment Regs marking booklet available?

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    You guys in the UKicon and Europe can also source the little marking disc booklet from John and Sue at DS Solutions. Excellent folks too!

    ---------- Post added at 11:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:00 AM ----------

    I still have plenty of copies too.

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    This thread has got me wondering on what is/was the general policy within the Britishicon Army of a soldier losing equipment in a battle/warzone such as a bayonet or other items of personal equipment normally carried by a soldier on active service and in action??? I would imagine that it would be quite easy to lose kit in the heat of a battle. Would the soldier have to pay for lost kit out of his own pocket??? I'm guessing that, at the very least, he would have to give some kind of plausible/believable explanation for any lost items.

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    If he lost it through sheer negligence, wherever he was, then he'd be charged for the item. During operations things are a lot different but it would all depend on the circumstances and the situation. However, on operations the OC has extra authority to write-off called 'Executive powers and authority of write-off' or something like that. That extends to, well....., pretty well everything from a Land-Rover, Truck to a tank

    But believe me, wherever you were, losing something deemed 'WOCS*', 'Starred' or 'V&A' loosely designated 'controlled stores' was something that you never ever contemplated unless you were in the middle of your worst nightmare. In fact, just those words together - lost and WOCS' has brought me out in a cold sweat.
    * Firearms were always in the highest category of WOCS and a loss would ALWAYS be followed by a searching and VERY detailed Board of Enquiry where the usual legal niceties such as Habeas Corpus, Magna Carta, common law - or even statute law - etc simply don't apply. The only rules that apply are those laid down by the Convening Board of Officers. Ho ho ho....., been on both sides of that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Promo View Post
    I ran into this M1907 hooked quillon bayonet. Can someone let me know which unit it was used with?
    A WWI trophy? Quite possibly in Germanyicon. Blade looks to have been well sharpened and well used.
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    Who knows where and when left ... Austrian police in some parts used SMLE rifles after WWII for quite some time. Probably came among those?

    I picked it up for the fair price and plan to somewhen put it in a sell/trade, whenever I feel the situation is right.

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    Of course someone in Germanyicon did remind me about the replica hooked quillons made for the movie Gallipoli...caveat emptor!
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