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    Sorry, but I have absolutely no idea what the body of an Enfield is.
    Is it the action? the center part of the stock?

    I researched it on the net without the slightest success.

    Once the rifle is reassembled , I will put up pictures from all angles, and hopefully the body will be captured in some pictures as well.

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    The receiver, out of the stock showing the markings on the left side of the receiver by the trigger group.

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    Me I just call it the receiver for all bolt guns just to be as usual a PINTB.................

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    That's what I was desperately trying to say Brian.............. If we all use the same hymn sheet it wouldn't get so frustrating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    I hope someone will also chip in and agree that this was a last gasp of the industrial strike bound Fazakerley factory to become commercially viable by selling off new No4 Mk2 rifles to the commercial gun trade. The gun trade would allocate their own serial numbers. The F56 is the date of manufacture. The mark directly below the H20 mark, is the UKicon Military proof and below that is an arrow with the Fazakerley section examiners mark (05/FD?) - known at the factory as 'team leaders'.
    From what I can find so far, yes I suspect you are correct. I have seen a few of "N" guns now but most if not all were also stamped "Fultons" This one does not appear to have been, so my thought that Fultons used "N" is probably now binned. I have also seen "A" and just 6 digits aka ParkerHale and so marked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polaris View Post
    Sorry, but I have absolutely no idea what the body of an Enfield is.
    Is it the action? the center part of the stock?

    I researched it on the net without the slightest success.

    Once the rifle is reassembled , I will put up pictures from all angles, and hopefully the body will be captured in some pictures as well.
    It is the bit the N XXXX is stamped on, the receiver. Under the rhs there will probably also be a F5X about 1/8th inch high which will tell you the year the receiver was made. On the RHS there will probably not be the un-machines single shot boss which suggests a late receiver. The F56 barrel could be an original or a replacement, as Ive seen a few F56 barrels on older guns. I assume they made a lot of barrels in 1956?

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    A late No.4 Mk.2 shouldn't (in theory) have the vestigial boss on the right lower front of the receiver (action) body. I.e.:




    Versus the original version:


    The No.4 rifle's magazine cutoff feature went away basically immediately, but the extra metal on the action remained almost to the end of production. (Not including the No.5 Mk.1 rifles!)

    So late No.4 Mk.2 rifles generally don't have the extra metal, and the fore stock inletting was changed to avoid having a void.

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    It'd be better if everyone purchased his Small Arms Identification Series (SAIS) easy readable handbooks. It'd make life much easier all round, for everyone when it came to correctly identifying parts

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