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    A Garand and her foe

    Took two of my favorites out for some photos the other day and figured I'd post them up! 70+ years ago these warhorses would be battling to the death in the pacific, and now they share a safe. The Garandicon is a mostly original 1944 Springfield, and the Arisakaicon is an all matching (including dust cover) 4th series Nagoya. Both hold spots as favorites in my collection.


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    Very nice...forged trigger guard on a SA '44? Ok, If you say so...both very nice...
    Regards, Jim

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    My original April 1944 Springfield M1icon rifle has the milled trigger guard, I think you will find both types during the early to mid months of 1944.

    When the Japaneseicon first captured M1 rifles during 1942, they re-barreled them to test out in their 7,7mm cartridge. They disliked the en bloc clip and used a stripper clip box
    magazine on there M1 rifle copies

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCS View Post
    They disliked the en bloc clip and used a stripper clip box
    magazine on there M1icon rifle copies
    That could also have possibly have also been to simplify supply (even though, they were horrendous at that) as they already had the stripper clips in the system, which means the ammo would only have to come as it was already packaged. Unfortunately we will never know though what the thought process was behind it.

    Very nice rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Very nice...forged trigger guard on a SA '44? Ok, If you say so...both very nice...
    Thank you for the compliments!

    As to the trigger guard, the housing and internals are all correct with matching finish/patina, and like RCS, I've noticed this serial range with both, so I felt safe in assuming it was an original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCS View Post
    My original April 1944 Springfield M1icon rifle has the milled trigger guard, I think you will find both types during the early to mid months of 1944.

    When the Japaneseicon first captured M1 rifles during 1942, they re-barreled them to test out in their 7,7mm cartridge. They disliked the en bloc clip and used a stripper clip box
    magazine on there M1 rifle copies
    I've read about that, and think the Japanese Garand would be the cats meow of a Japanese collection. Unfortunately I've only seen two online for sale, both not being much more than barreled receivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglelord17 View Post
    That could also have possibly have also been to simplify supply (even though, they were horrendous at that) as they already had the stripper clips in the system, which means the ammo would only have to come as it was already packaged. Unfortunately we will never know though what the thought process was behind it.

    Very nice rifles.
    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrettbragg12 View Post
    As to the trigger guard, the housing and internals are all correct with matching finish/patina, and like RCS, I've noticed this serial range with both,
    Like I said, I'll buy that. Nice looking pieces...
    Regards, Jim

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    Well, he did say "mostly." My '54 Springfield is a "mostly" because I put a milled guard trigger group on it, simply because I like the milled guard.

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    I agree, I always like them better.
    Regards, Jim

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    So did the Marines... the milled guard is a characteristic of the M1952 Sniper rifle.
    Real men measure once and cut.

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    Back in the early '80s a gent had a Jap Garandicon for sale at the shows here . A Garand was $ 4-600 ish and he wanted $800 . I looked at it for years , but just couldn't bring myself to pay that much for it . Ammo was very hard to find back then and very expensive , plus the rear sight peep looked like a needle hole . I'd have to pay some more money to have it opened up . Then , one show , it was gone , never to be seen again .
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