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    Unfortunately due to my lack of knowledge on Enfield’s, and most all military surplus for that matter, I tend to be a ‘lurker’ on this site. I am sorry for not responding back. Most everyones posts seemed to be straight forward, and I assumed its time had passed when the joking started.
    Britishicon military history is an interest of mine. Not knowing what the markings meant, lead me to ask the vague questions of, ‘what do these markings mean’, and to my own stupidity, ‘some parts are stamped 47’. If one of the markings indicated that it had been in a certain location, at a certain time, that to me is interesting. I understand most people find this information dreadfully boring, and usually leads to nowhere. When I posted onto this forum, I was simply excited, and wanted to learn a small amount about the rifle.
    Prior to purchasing this rifle, the last time I actually saw a No. 5 in person was two years ago. Coincidently, that was the same time I did my small amount research on No. 5’s. Some things I had simply forgotten like ‘M47C’; however, other things like checking for scollops/lighting cuts on the barrel, and receiver I did not. I was not expecting to buy the rifle when I did, the price happened to be right, it was in decent shape, so I bought it.
    Nonetheless, I have gained more information on what this rifle is, and I appreciate the information everyone has given me. I have looked into buying one of Skennertonicon’s books, and will be doing so in the near future since Enfield’s are beginning to up my rifle rack. Moreover, I do not want to bother everyone with more ‘what does this mean’, type questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCC002 View Post
    . I have looked into buying one of Skennertonicon’s books, and will be doing so in the near future since Enfield’s are beginning to up my rifle rack. Moreover, I do not want to bother everyone with more ‘what does this mean’, type questions.
    TCC002: Skennertons latest big Lee Enfield book is a fantastic read- if you're like me you won't be able to put it down for about a month. But seriously, don't worry about bothering people here with questions- you get candid (no bull), informed answers from real experts and move on. I shudder to think back to some of my earlier posts but you have to learn somehow and the benefits of sticking around here are immense. You should come right back with a new thread about one of your other rifles. Regards.

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    Skennertonicon has some well researched material Major E B Reynolds book is another great source for the T's Laidlers and Skennertons effort is the go to book, for me I like to read the mauve Skennerton book is No.30 of a limited edition, have shown a few others series I have the Tiger collection has grown by another 2 books not shown, couple of others I have Manns book, Whelens 2 books another on ammunition and artillery ballistics and a fair few on N.E rifles and African game hunting in the 1800-1900's thought I would share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TCC002 View Post
    I do not want to bother everyone with more ‘what does this mean’, type questions.
    Everyone starts ignorantly and moves up the ladder. The only poor question is the one not asked. Don't be afraid to ask. I have a library of Enfield codes and collected information which I am happy to share with anyone who likes to use Dropbox.

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    In life there is never a dumb question just a dumb answer..... sorry Seaspriter but as I am no Bill Gates how does one use drop-box I would like to look at the information you have to further my knowledge and for research.
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    The point I was making in thread - whatever it was - is not about the actual question per-se at all. I've been a part time teacher (physics) and know that the volume of questions is good and honest. The difference there and here is that you spend a good deal of time answering Q's from new forumers and you know that a good few of them will be gone with no words of thanks, a slam of the door and the lights switched off. Never to be heard of again. And as I have mentioned several times before, using these very words, transient Bren owners seem to be the worst.

    Sort-of off the subject a bit...... in a class it's usually the brightest lights that ask the good questions and when they do, you just KNOW that they've asked because they don't know/understand (and that means you haven't put it across well too.....) And if THEY don't know, then the dimmer ones don't know either

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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    sorry Seaspriter but as I am no Bill Gates how does one use drop-box I would like to look at the information you have to further my knowledge and for research.
    Hi Cinders,

    I have been collecting files on Enfields for a couple of years, organized into categories. Within the categories there are articles and often just collections of dialogue from Milsurps or other sources. It's comprehensive, but certainly not like the Library of Congress, nor is it complete.

    I'm happy to share it with others, but don't expect it to be written in perfect book-like form. Sometimes it's just rough data, sometimes whole articles.

    About Dropbox:
    First, Dropbox is a free access function where data is stored in the "cloud" -- on a server everyone can get access, just like the Milsurps site.

    Second, to get access, first go to Dropbox.com and sign up for an account. This will download the Dropbox software on your computer. It will set up a place on your computer where all share files are stored, in a directory called Dropbox. Within this directory you can set up separate folders to share files with others. When someone sends you a "link" to a set of folders, when you click on that link, all the files associated with that link will download onto your computer, so you have access to them.

    Third, I'm sending you a "link" which you should click on after you get the Dropbox software on your computer.
    Dropbox - Enfield

    It's really easy and takes care of itself automatically.

    Lastly, I'd suggest that you take any files you like and save them to separate library in your secure portion of your own computer, as I cannot guarantee I will keep this link open in perpetuity and it is not the place were I keep all my most current Enfield files (this is a hobby for me, not a profession

    PM me if you have any problems.

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    Thanks Seaspriter my son is home tomorrow Monday so will get him to give me a hand to do what you have said as I am woeful at computers I have the record at work at present been there 3 months and my aura must upset them as they just stop working I am on my 7th one they are fine after the techs fire them up just me, oh and 3 phones as well stopped working!!!! go figure

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    Thank you everyone for all the suggested reading! I will be asking more questions and posting more in future. And Seaspriter, that is impressive compilation of works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    The point is that we've had a LOT of these '.....what's this mark(s) stuff lately and the answer is always the same
    With the greatest respect, Peter, how is that approach any different from metaphorically rolling one's eyes at people posting "What is this old gun?" threads and suggesting a quick Google or Wikipedia search could answer the question fairly easily, since we've all responded to the same question so very many times?

    We know what the answer is because we spend so much time researching/studying these things, but to someone new to the whole thing they simply have no idea that there's actually nothing special about their 1942 Lithgowicon SMLE Mk III*.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidler View Post
    Yep, agreed DRP. But only sooooo far. Where and when approx it was made, when and if identifiable - which they are, where the parts came from. But really....., what earthly use is it to know that a letter M over a small B-3 relates to Gerald Sniffwaite who was a temporary inspector during the absence of Arthur Brockbank. Gerald was the son of the Church organist at St Ethelreds church at nearby Aston and both sang in the gospel choir at Smethwick while he wasn't working the night shift at BSA. His team manager was...
    Actually, I would find that information really interesting as it adds to a gun's story immensely and helps reinforce the fact they weren't made in isolation by robots.

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