When was the end of the P-1907 bayonet

[Peter Laidler]

Clearly, no!

[Bruce_in_Oz]

Well, here in Oz, Lithgow was knocking out No1 rifles and bayonets as late as 1953, at the same time as participating in the run-up to make the L1A1. STANDARD Oz rifle in the "Police Action" in Korea at the time.

The Oz Army used the Oz HT sniper variant well into the 1970s, finally trading them in for Parker-Hales in the early 1980s.

Australian Cadets (all services) were using them (and No2 trainers and Brens) into the late 1970s, despite the savage slashing of Cadet budgets in about 1973. I was shooting them competitively in the Air Training Corps (RAAF Cadets) in 1974.

South Africa had a squillion as well.

Speaking of Canada, there was a recently-made doco on TV here the other day about the Canadian Rangers, and there, front and centre, were No4 rifles being carted around the ice and snow and fired in a range practice by various members.

It's a bit like the use of the L1A1.

The Oz "Commonwealth Honour Guard" carry L1A1 rifle for ALL local and international ceremonial occasions.

The "Plastic Fantastic" (Steyr AUG / F-88 and variants), being a VERY short "bullpup", does not lend itself to "old-style' ceremonial drill. Thus, it is carried on parade with the sling fitted, but said sling is not cinched up tight, but runs across the soldier's shoulder / neck. This makes it MUCH harder to drop the rifle, and it means that the weight is taken across the shoulders. The rifle, like the Brit L-85 etc variants is too short to be held at the "order" position unless the individual is him/her-self ludicrously short or has arms like an Orang Utan.

[Surpmil]

So, does anyone here actually know the answer to the question?

No, but now I want to know why it matters so much?

[Cottage Hill Bill]

Actually, I thought it would be a reasonably easy question to answer. Silly me. It sprang from the project of making display cases for my bayonet collection. I'm making a case for each series Bayonet Display like this one. At the top of the case is a plate with the series name and production dates, i.e. P-1903 1903-1907. I got this first one wrong and didn't want to make the same mistake twice. Wanted to get the dates for the P-1907 and realized I didn't know when it was discontinued. I thought there might be a LoC entry that declared the 1907 obsolete. I guess I could use the WWII WSC run as the end of production as opposed to end of use.
Really didn't mean to stir up a storm.

[XTrooper]

Actually, I thought it would be a reasonably easy question to answer. Silly me. It sprang from the project of making display cases for my bayonet collection. I'm making a case for each series Bayonet Display like this one. At the top of the case is a plate with the series name and production dates, i.e. P-1903 1903-1907. I got this first one wrong and didn't want to make the same mistake twice. Wanted to get the dates for the P-1907 and realized I didn't know when it was discontinued. I thought there might be a LoC entry that declared the 1907 obsolete. I guess I could use the WWII WSC run as the end of production as opposed to end of use.
Really didn't mean to stir up a storm.

I, for one, would like to see photos of your bayonet display(s) when completed!

[Vincent]

I have seen 1945 as the declared obsolete date for the No1 rifle. No supporting documentation though.

[green]

The P1907 continued in use with the Lanchester MC in the RN until 1978 when the last war reserve RN Lanchesters were destroyed.
1st Batt The RCR (Canada) had a nickel plated P1907 with scabbard mounts also nickeled on charge as late as 1970 for issue to the orderly sergeant.

[Cottage Hill Bill]

Xtrooper,

Click on the phrase Bayonet Display in my reply above, it links to another forum where I posted the P-1888 display. That's the prototype/proof of concept model. I plan to do one for each model, P-1888, P-1903, P-1907, No.4.

[XTrooper]

Xtrooper,

Click on the phrase Bayonet Display in my reply above, it links to another forum where I posted the P-1888 display. That's the prototype/proof of concept model. I plan to do one for each model, P-1888, P-1903, P-1907, No.4.

Spectacular, CHB!

[Peter Laidler]

In the light of Greens comment (thread 17) maybe I should amend my threads to add '.....in land service'. He's right. The last Admiralty Lanchesters that also took the No1 bayonet were all destroyed in 1978. Presumably declared Obsolete by the Navy Board a couple of weeks before then.