I used to believe you couldn't be arrested as long as you weren't doing anything wrong but the episode with the game warden several years ago changed my mind and ever since I have an uneasy feeling about even being seen with a gun anywhere other than on my own property.
I'm not trying to give the impression that I flaunt my gun rights or ownership for that matter. I try to be discreet in these meetings. I'm actually a bit more concerned with people watching me go in and out of my house with them. I live in a small town with a lot of close neighbors and I'm very paranoid about the 20' walk from my car to the backdoor. I don't open carry, I don't conceal carry. I have walked through the City of Lancaster with a rifle once but that was due to them holding a gun show in the downtown convention center. Police saw me but none approached me. I believe I carried it muzzle down on a shoulder sling but not positive on that. I've also been checked in the woods on a couple of occasions by game wardens. They checked to ensure the guns could not hold more ammo than legally allowed, they have a 3 shot limit for shotguns for small game, none for big game. And that was it. My wife is scared to death that I'm going to go off on one of these and not come back but I figure who in their right mind would try to rob somebody by advertising some obscure beat up old rifle when they could do the same with some fancy AR or AK. The website has a feedback option also so you can check them out before hand. I've been using it for maybe 4-5 years now and in that time the vast majority of things I've posted on here were either purchased or traded for in this public manner.
The PSL is a DMR not a sniper rifle. A beefed up AK to handle 54r. I'll see what it can do with hand loads, but I expect 2" groups at 100yds with spam can stuff.
I had the opportunity to inspect and handle one of these SVD/PSL variant rifles in Afghanistan, but not the chance to fire one. Legally they are a no go in my area so I would have to travel to get the complete experience. I have always been interested in "what the bad guys" get issued, because up until 2005, we were training in the Cold War doctrine, based on facing some random Motor Rifle Division, or the fictional 69th Underground Balloon Regiment.
I think you've landed a good find that is an interesting bit of Russian doctrine, the contrasting concept of embedded sharpshooters the at the front line, who might still fix bayonets and charge, compared to the western "Sniper Teams" skulking about with their suits and bolt actions.
What was the Iraqi one, the Tobruk? The same concept but in 7.62x39mm?
I had thought about working up a similar concept with a CZ858/VZ58 but they are not the most precise gun to begin with.
- Darren 1 PL West Nova Scotia Regiment 2000-2003
1 BN Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry 2003-2013
I had the opportunity to inspect and handle one of these SVD/PSL variant rifles in Afghanistan, but not the chance to fire one. Legally they are a no go in my area so I would have to travel to get the complete experience. I have always been interested in "what the bad guys" get issued, because up until 2005, we were training in the Cold War doctrine, based on facing some random Motor Rifle Division, or the fictional 69th Underground Balloon Regiment.
I think you've landed a good find that is an interesting bit of Russian doctrine, the contrasting concept of embedded sharpshooters the at the front line, who might still fix bayonets and charge, compared to the western "Sniper Teams" skulking about with their suits and bolt actions.
What was the Iraqi one, the Tobruk? The same concept but in 7.62x39mm?
I had thought about working up a similar concept with a CZ858/VZ58 but they are not the most precise gun to begin with.
The Iraqi model was the Tabuk, clone of a Zastava if memory serves.
I had the opportunity to inspect and handle one of these SVD/PSL variant rifles in Afghanistan
That could've been the Iraqi produced Al Kadesiah, IIRC. Read an article about them in SGN years ago. They were in 7.62x54R and are a hybrid of sorts based on the SVD and PSL though few/no parts interchange between the 3 rifles according to the write up. Magazines were unique looking and had the impression of what appears to be a Palm tree and cross on the sides. Scopes most commonly used were Serbian Zrak 4x or Chinese Type JJJ 4x. There was even a weird gold plated presentation variant made if fairly large numbers.
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That could've been the Iraqi produced Al Kadesiah, IIRC. Read an article about them in SGN years ago.
My memory is fuzzy, but I don't recall any Farsi on the sides of it, that would have struck me as unusual, it was almost certainly a Chinese Type 79 or would have been one of the Balkans produced variants. One of the Afghan National Army guys had it and I know for certain it was 7.62x54R, aside from that not much stood out aside from a very long travel on the trigger when I dry fired it.
He was busy trying to shake us down for "sex-books" as he crudely pantomimed, pornography as it were, of which there has never, ever, been in an Infantry Fighting Vehicle, we only carried official manuals and precis in "that" part of the cargo benches...
LOL
We sent him on his way with a copy of non-pornographic Maxim magazine, which still sparked a vicious fistfight before a morning OP.
Looking back, it's a shame I don't have more weapons photos but priorities were a little different, corrupting the locals and spreading western culture that day.
- Darren 1 PL West Nova Scotia Regiment 2000-2003
1 BN Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry 2003-2013
Yes, the trigger is atrocious. A mile long and stacks right before it breaks. The raised comb is for the irons to use the scope you have to raise your head up and left, so no cheek weld.
My memory is fuzzy, but I don't recall any Farsi on the sides of it,
For whatever reason the markings on Al Kadesiah's were in English rather than Farsi, though none are known to have been exported to English speaking countries.
PM
Originally Posted by Sentryduty
