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    I made this thread to help people learn what books are good for collecting and are not (as we have limited money to spend and we don't want to be wasting it on poor quality books). The rules are simple just list the book title (if there is multiple editions listing what edition also helps), author, what type of firearms it specifically talks about, and how you felt the book is (for example, is it lacking information in a certain area or is it a extremely well written book). If you are looking for a book on a specific topic ask here, and hopefully someone will be able to give a good recommendation. So to start I will list some of mine.

    Title: M91/30 Rifles and M38/44 Carbines in 1941-1945. Author: Alexander Yuschenko. Type of Firearms: Sovieticon Mosin Nagants specifically in the 1941-1945 time frame.
    Quality of book: Excellent quality book on Soviet Mosin Nagants from the 1941-1945 time frame. Tons of good quality photos, and excellent amount of information that the West has not previously received. Highly recommended. Only downside is they just sold out, and he might not produce more of them (he intends to expand the time frame and make a larger book).

    Title: The Mosin Nagant Rifle, 6th edition. Author: Terrence Lapin
    Type of Firearms: Mosin Nagant rifles of all types.
    Quality of book: Decent book for a beginner or for general information. It has paid off several times for me. Lots of photos and good information, however it could still be more detailed. I would recommend it, just know that it isn't the be all to end all book.

    Title: Military Rifles of Japan, 5th edition. Author: Fred L. Honeycutt, F. Patt Anthony
    Type of firearms: Murata and Arisakaicon Rifles
    Quality of book: Great book for learning about the individual series of Japanese rifles (i.e. 1st series, second series, 49th series etc.). Tons of photos though a bit light on the general information on the firearms (usually only a page or two describing the specific models). Recommended book if you intend to buy Japanese rifles, or just want to learn about the series.

    Title: Mannlicher Military Rifles. Author: Paul S. Scarlata
    Type of firearms: Mannlicher designed firearms
    Quality of book: It is the only book I have found on Mannlicher firearms. Issues I have with the book is there is some just plain wrong information inside it, and the format is a bit odd. It also doesn't really talk much about other countries Mannlichers besides Austriaicon-Hungary, and talks very little about captured rifles and features like that. Overall I would have to recommend it if you are interested in Mannlicher rifles (as there is literally no other option), however it is a book that could be greatly improved on, just no one has done it yet.

    Title: Germanicon Gew.88 "Commission" Rifle. Author: Paul S. Scarlata
    Type of firearms: Commission Gewehr 1888
    Quality of book: It is one of the few books out there on the Commission 88 rifle. Overall it isn't a bad book, just lacking a bit in information. Same odd format as the other book Mannlicher Military Rifles. It also share a bit of content with that same book. Overall I would recommend it, just take the contents with a grain of salt.

    Title: Mauser Military Rifles of the World, 5th edition. Author: Robert W.D. Ball
    Type of firearms: Mausers of all sorts
    Quality of book: Great reference book. Has information on a large variety of Mausers and has them listed by country with photos of the models. It is missing some models (realistically I don't think you could ever catalog all Mauser variants as there is just so many) but it is a great book if you are trying to identify specific types or are looking for more obscure Mausers people aren't going to write a book about (say Colombian Mausers). There could always be more information, but you would likely have to read a book on German Mausers to get more information (and it will likely be lacking for more obscure Mausers). Highly recommended.

    Title: The Lee Enfield Rifleicon. Author: Martin Pegler
    Type of firearms: Lee Enfields
    Quality of book: Overall extremely disappointed. For a title like the Lee Enfield Rifle I expected it to talk about all the countries variants, production and usage. Instead it only really talks about service with the UKicon when many countries who used it or produced it were left out of the picture completely or only given a tiny mention. Whole major variants are left out (for example Ishapore 2As and 2A1s), and there are plenty of other books I would buy before this one. Not recommended, there are many books I would take my chances on before this one.

    Title: Standard Catalog of Military Firearms, 7th edition. Author: Philip Peterson
    Type of firearms: Military surplus of all sorts
    Quality of book: Good book for general price point if you know nothing about military firearms or specific military firearms. Prices are mainly accurate in the states (the intended market) but the prices aren't always correct mainly intended to be a rough guide. Missing many models and types (can't get them all), however it is a decent starting point if you have no clue as to price. Overall recommended if your buying outside your comfort area, or just want a rough idea as to what is out there.
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    Knowlage is power. Refrences are priceless when you are in the deep end of the pool (approching your comfort limit). I purchased a Frenchicon occupation Mauser recently that i would have passed on had I not had access to a refrence (Mauser Military Rifles of the World). Ended up with a bit of a bargin on an unusual rifle.
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    Very true, I have made several bad deals in the past as I didn't know what I was looking at or I knew what it was but not what to look for. One of the problems with being a 'generalist' collector (I only really want one of each model, I don't need all the factory types or focus in on only one type of firearm) like myself is that every time you go to get something, it is generally something I have no experience with (so I usually gain that experience after I have bought it). The people who do benefit from my experience isn't me, rather my friends as I can help them as I know what to look for after the fact. For example if I was only buying Lee Enfields I would likely have a very good idea of the price of the different models and how rare they are and what to look for (what should be numbered, who manufactured what parts, do the parts fit etc.). As it stands I understand most the basic details but there is much I am missing because I don't focus on that specific firearm type.

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    For the above reasons as I'm also a generalist collector I would add "Standard Catalog of Military Firearms : The Collector's Price and Reference Guide" by Philip Peterson It is not perfect by any means but when you really don't have a clue what something is worth it gives you a good range. Mine has been indispensable and I just mentioned to my wife that my copy is starting to look like some peoples Bibles. Dog eared, bent, folded, dirty etc. I rarely leave the house with it on weekends as I don't know what I might run into at yard sales, flea markets and antique shops. And the really amazing thing is, it's 6 years old and I still don't buy something if it doesn't fit in the price range. I seriously need to upgrade to a newer edition but it works. Prices have gone up, I'm just stubborn.

    Admittedly, when I know said rifle is going for due to watching for one for a long while, I've paid more, sometimes substantially more than my 6 year old guide advises.

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    I don't have a tremendous amount of gun books but I do like the "For Collectors Only" series of books. These are small paperbacks and generally are $8-$12 each. Mine include the No1 MKIII Enfield, No 4 and 5 Enfield, 1917-P-14, M1icon Garand, M1 Carbine, Krag Rifles, Mosin Nagant, Swedishicon Rifles, The SKS, 1903 Springfield and Swissicon Rifles. I don't think that's quite all that are made but it's pretty close. Each is generally pretty thorough on markings, the various types, serial number/year of production, accessories, etc. They are also very easy to use and find things in due to the small size and ease of flip page scanning.

    I have managed to find three different Carcano books, the most recent arrived two days ago, I talked about these on the Carcano forum. I have Balls Mauser book and the two Scarlotta books mentioned above. I like them but admittedly wouldn't be able to pick out errors like some can.

    Another must have book is "A collector's Guide to Military Rifle Disassembly and Reassembly". Paperback oversized, glossy paper and almost nothing but photos. Has most of the rifles all but the most serious are going to encounter and tells you/shows you how to take them apart and perhaps more important, put them back together. So no more stripping that screw that comes out by turning to the right, not the left, etc. Most reassemblies are just the reverse but if there is an important step, they make note of it. My only complaint and it's not really a problem with the book is that I like to keep things clean and turning the pages can be problematic when working with a filthy rifle.

    Bruce Canfield's Complete Guide to the M1 Garand and M1 Carbine kills two birds with one stone. Has a lot of period photos and good data. Not as easy to use as I like but it probably has most of the information a casual collector would need.

    I have two books on Japaneseicon Rifles, the one mentioned above and Japanese Rifles of WWII. I actually like the second the best, large paperback format, has photos or line drawings of most of the variations and markings you will encounter and very easy to use.

    I have nothing on Frenchicon Rifles and would very much like to find something on them.

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    Books

    When I get a moment I will go through mine and post what I have they are on the Owen gun, the Lee Enfields, Garandicon, Ballistics, etc.

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    I went through a few and picked what I thought would be of interest the Skennertonicon books are a great source on the Lee the Mauve one is 1 of only 300 done by Ian (Signed).
    The Whelen books are good as is the Hunting rifle by Whelen, Manns book deals pretty much with Exterior Balistics.
    Peters book is there on the T, Strattons is another go to for the 303, the Britishicon doubles is interesting (I like N E rifles), The Owen gun deals with its design and controversy attached to it. Hatchers book on the Garand is a bible for it I am led to believe as is Hatchers Note book.
    The Roger Wadham books not to shabby for accurizing the Lee but I consider from a technical view point E B Reynolds book on the Lee enfield is a great source if not one of the best on the Lee Enfield line.
    I have others squirreled away on Arty balistics and other stuff and I chucked a couple in just to show there are smaller bits and bobs around if one wishes to buy them online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    I have nothing on Frenchicon Rifles and would very much like to find something on them.
    I second this, if anyone knows of a good book on French rifles in English, please let me know.

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    Well I see a couple I need to get.
    Often mentioned are the Scott A. Duff books on the M1icon Garand. Joe Poyer's "The Model 1903 Springfield Rifle".
    My last two were ".380 Enfield No.2 Revolver" by Stamps & Skennertonicon, and "The Handgun" by Geoffrey Boothroyd, which is out of print , but available at Abe Books.
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    I did see a nice book on Frenchicon handguns at a gun show last week but it wasn't for sale and I forgot the name. It is a new printing.

    Found it: French Service Handguns 1858-2004 Available on Amazon but $70. I did leaf through it and if it was $30 less I'd buy it.

    And I did find a few other dealers selling it for $40-$45, shop around a bit if interested.
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    Definitely neat, however my collecting of handguns is fairly limited (in particular even if I wanted to many Frenchicon service pistols are illegal for me to own here), mostly I would be interested on a book about the French rifles from roughly 1886 to 1956 (basically the Lebel or even Gras up until the M49/56s).

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