New stuff for the collection

[CINDERS]

Never stops the collecting bug got these the other day;
20mm projectile SMC 1943 appears to have a steel core as per pic of the projies base - needed it for the case it sits on.
A cannon projectile I am thinking it is something along the lines of a 6pdr it appears to be a WWI G-1 profile it is scaled with a 2pdr shell
And a 2" mortar illum round 1944 dated.

The thing I like about these acquisitions is they retain their copper original driving bands which was in short supply after the war and often cut from the projectile to be melted.
Not much info on the bigger projectile all I found on the base was a 23 and on the side of the shell an underlined P the base has a hollw section @30mm dia maybe for a base fuse! Still they have plenty of company in my room....now then the search continues!!!

Heres the projie in question next to a 37mm case any guesses to it's type perhaps light field Arty it feels almost solid shot will caliper it tomorrow for measurement Attachment 74060

Post Postscript ~ Ages ago I inquired about my Mills grenades (with pics) and if anyone would hazard why the white one was different than the M-36 I have well I got bored totally last night and checked Skennertons book on them looks like it is a No 23M judging by the shape etc you can just see it in the last pic with the 37mm (The 36 is on the shelf above). Thanks to BAR who replied

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[RCS]

My 37mm projectile has a half inch hole in the bottom about 3/4 inch deep. My copper band has the following data: LOT 1-0319-2 1942 CM 37MM M74, I thought it might have been for
a P-39 or early P38 cannon but a check showed the aircraft cannon projectiles used a different numbered/model number.

[browningautorifle]

The hollow spot at the bottom was usually for the tracer element. Yes, the big one looks like a 6 pdr, mine is a practice and square front. The two is very nice, I've needed a projectile for my casing for years...solid shot of course is for use against hard targets.

[CINDERS]

If I find one BAR I will get it for ya postage to the USA may be a killer though even for a 2pdr projie.

[Flying10uk]

In Australia, does "trench art" in the form of WW1 shell cases that have had decretive designs and patterns hand punched and engraved onto their side crop up very often in antique and flea markets etc? In the U.k it is relatively common although I would question how much of it was actually carried out in trench it's self.

[henry r]

unfortunately I don't get to visit markets and antiques stores much any more, but you do see quite a lot of shell cased turned into vases by cutting the mouth and curling the 'leaves' out on ebay.
the art I used to see quite often were aeroplane ashtrays.



the only trench art in my family was a Oerliken case used as the handle on a fire poker, but it was made by grandfather using a case he picked up from a ship he was salvaging scrap metal off circa '44 after he was discharged for injuries.

[CINDERS]

Also picked this pair up as well the 303 round I use as a scale so you can get an idea of the items size also took a H/S pic if any one can identify them. TIA

[browningautorifle]

may be a killer though even for a 2pdr projie.

Yes but it's probably the only place to get one. I'd have to stand it.

"trench art"

Trench art for the most part was done by convalescing troops in the rear, to give them work for their hands and minds. The stuff made at the front looks completely different. Most didn't make it back. It's back in the rear you have time on your hands, not at the front.

if any one can identify them. TIA

Are they not 37mm cases?

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Measured the cases I.D neck is 36.31mm so 37mm they are 200mm long (37mm x 200mm designation.) now the question is are they tank rounds for the Lee Grant or aircraft I think the P-39 had a 20mm or 30mm firing through the propeller boss can anyone decipher the head stamps. TIA as usual

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So I cleaned up all the gunge gave it a coat of semi flat and here she is I did not polish the band as that would detract from the aged patina the shell miked at 56.63mm so 57mm (6pdr) but I still feel it is around WWI era given the G-1 profile still who cares its here with me and I can admire it for lots of years to come hopefully.