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    The other indication that a round has been fired from a BREN is a chisel shaped indent on the base where it was struck by the ejector...

    But yeah.. Kynock 1936 Mk6 Ball - ..probably export

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    The Japaneseicon captured so much ammunition in Singapore, together with Bren guns, that it had the Bren Infantry Training booklets copied into Japanese. The IWM and AWM copies even use the same line drawings, cunningly doctored to show Japanese soldiers!

    Just found it. The Japanese captured 18.1 million rounds of .303" ammunition during the fall of Malaya and Singapore plus 3,000 Bren guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    3,000 Bren guns.
    So...where are THEY now? Are we driving them?
    Regards, Jim

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    There use to be a U.S. manufactured staff car, on the U.K. show circuit, that was sent to Singapore for use by the Britishicon and Commonwealth army stationed there. It arrived just before the Japaneseicon who then used it for the duration of their occupation of Singapore and then it was recaptured by the British army at the end of the war. I haven't seen this car about for a long time but presumably it's still around somewhere in someone's private collection. Perhaps something similar happened to any Brens that were recaptured at the end of the war?

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    When we returned we simply took them over again as we did with many vehicles. I know that for a fact with some of the old wartime motorcycles there because they had special WD numbers issued that indicated that their provenance was lost. Where the old C numbers were identifiable, they were changed to XX YH XX type numbers (ie, 34YH44) but those where the of census numbers were unidentified were kept on charge using ZZ numbers. In Singapore there were still several Austin (K5?) 3 tonners with 'lost' numbers with 25 Company but all the QL's and RL's were current of course.

    The main Singapore Base Workshop (later 40 Base) was re-taken over exactly as we left it and some of the workers there were still the same, as were the dockyards at Sembawang and HMS Terror

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    HMS Terror just from memory Peter was a single turreted monitor with 15" guns pretty sure it was doing its bit on June 6th 1944..... found a pic of her
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    HMS Terror was bombed in the Med and sunk 23 Feb. 1941, off Derna, Libya. Her sister ship, HMS Erebus did fight D Day coastal defenses in Europe.


    Here is a pic of "H.M.S. Terror" in 1965

    http://www.derektait.co.uk/hmsterror65.jpg
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    Perhaps thats the switch I was confused with both being of the same class different names I never followed the monitor class only some ACC's and some Battleships. Thanks for the info.

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    Did much of the dockyard at Singapore get demolished (blown up) just before the arrival of the Japaneseicon as has been suggested over the years since 1945?

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    HMS Terror was the Naval Dockyard in Singapore when I was there chaps. I stand to be corrected of course, but I think you'll find that............

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