"Folded up" British bayonet frogs.

[browningautorifle]

I'll bet Flying10uk has a belt he can measure...or Peter is using one to hold his pants up.

[gsimmons]

P37 belt is 2.25" wide.

[Peter Laidler]

In the UK section of your other forum thread Old Smithy, it shows an RAF girl with an SA80 and bayonet. The bayonet is strange in that it doesn't have the serrated ground edge along the blade. Never noticed this feature - or lack of this feature - on a SA80 bayonet.

On the subject of bayonet frogs, it'd be worth knowing how many variations there were. There must have been zillions. I do recall that some that were issued allowed the L1A1, No7 and No5 top heavy bayonets to tip over if they didn't have the top supporting strap part. And you couldn't use that top supporting strap thing on parade because if you did, you couldn't disengage the bayonet grip from the frog to fix bayonets. So if you happened to be a member of the drill squad (or were UNfortunately selected to be part of it.....) the Drill Sgt always made sure that you were all equipped with the same frog, gloss painted bayonet and scabbard and the rest of the bull shine that went with it. Yep....... been there......

One day I'll tell you about the visit by the Duke of Edinburgh one drizzly day at Tidworth............

[old-smithy]

wasn't the none sawback a cadet version, to go with the single action SA80 they had?

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P37 belt is 2.25" wide.

It would be tight but I am sure the folded long 07 frog would still fit on the belt

[Peter Laidler]

The issued Cadet rifle didn't have a flash eliminator with bayonet fitting, just a sleeve so Cadets couldn't fix a bayonet. The export or commercial versions did have the flash eliminator.

[Flying10uk]

The RAF frogs pictured in post 1 would take, at a pinch, a belt of no more than 1 1/2" wide in their "folded up" state which is how both frogs came to me from the dealer. I would guess that the dealer got them in this folded state from military storage?

I expect that I have around a dozen different British frogs even though I don't specifically collect them, mainly ones that have come with bayonets.

[browningautorifle]

a belt of no more than 1 1/2" wide in their "folded up" state

P37 belt is 2.25" wide

Still makes me wonder how it worked.

[Flying10uk]

I think that some of the earlier frogs were longer, presumably giving a wider loop when folded, but how wide a belt they would take if folded over I don't know. The frogs which I have in post 1 are definitely not going to take a 2 1/4" wide belt in their folded state.

[old-smithy]

the one RAF one I have for my book wouldn't take more than a 1" or thereabouts belt either,

[Flying10uk]

Perhaps the RAF sometimes mounted the frog on a smaller belt???