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    No4 Mk2's Issued to?

    Looking to use my No4 Mk2 in CMPicon match here in the US and to qualify make and model should have been an issue arm. Understand No2 was not issued to Britishicon. Interested to know who it was issued to just in case I get any flack. If it wasn't then I guess I will have to pick up a No1. Any help appreciated.

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    Who on earth told you that pure horse shi.........., er........ manure Sheppsan? I have documentary evidence in my little mitts right now that confirms they were issued. In large quantities.........

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    Peter, not really sure where I picked up that manure; guess I must have read it somewhere in connection to transition to SLR. Just don't want a beef with the Match officials when I step to the the line with my Mk2. Would appreciate a little detailIf you have time to give it. Much appreciated!!

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    Just tell them I said so and tell them to call me. I'll give them the full verse and chapter.

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    Lots but if they say something South Africa or Kenya will get it done....Most of the line guys know there stuff I doubt you will have any issues. Good luck.

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    4.0 As-Issued Military Rifle Match Rules
    Rule 4.0 defines specific rules and procedures that apply to all CMPicon AsIssued Military Rifle and Pistol events.
    4.1 As-Issued Military Rifle Matches
    4.1.1 Intent and Spirit
    The intent and spirit of CMP As-Issued Military Rifle Match rules is to provide
    modern target rifle competitions for competitors who use affordable, readily
    available, as-issued military rifles of U. S. or foreign manufacture. As-Issued
    military rifles are rifles that were or could have been carried by Soldiers,
    Sailors, Marines or Airmen in military operations. These matches seek to
    honor “those who served” and carried these rifles and to preserve the
    traditions of military marksmanship. Any rifle configuration or item of
    equipment that is not mentioned in these rules or that is contrary to the intent
    and spirit of these rules is prohibited.

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    Many years ago I competed in a cadet match using "No4 Rifle as issued" sponsored by a provincial rifle association. One of my team mates won the match and was challenged by the runner up on the basis that the winner's rifle was not issue because it had a MkI rear sight. The challenger was using a "Regulated by Fulton" No4 with a Mk3 sight but definitely not as issued. The challenger was also a close relative of the official judging the match. The real winner was disqualified. I have been invited to shoot with this club many times since but I will not.
    You may be a real expert but remember you are up against people who just plain KNOW!
    The op does have a valid concern.

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    The parts fitted to a particular mark/type of rifle are dictated by the Equipment Regulations and the parts list. Clearly if he went to shoot using a long Bren sling for comfort or even a private leather sling, then that'd be NO!

    Give some of these people a bit of authority and guess what some of them WILL do........ In fact some of them ALWAYS do....... Yep, they'll abuse it

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    Well I know both the royal navy and the RAF used the No 4 MK II until at least 1968. On this site of Gunboard forums a guy who went through RAF basic had a No 4 MK II be purchased around serial number range UF55 30450.

    the Irish FCA used them until 1987~88 in the range between 55 UF55 A152 to A21266, and the well know PF range dated between 53 and 55.

    In the 1990s a lot of ex Cadet rifles were sold here in the USAicon of that pattern

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    Frederick303 do you have any information on the early UF55 A--- rifles with SN's below 152?

    I had one years ago UF55 A25 that was stamped "Parker Hale Birmingham" on the barrel ring and a DCRA 7.62mm conversion.
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