Stock Cartouche Authentication document.

[Jason60chev]

Hello, Again, Milsurp Friends,

I recently submitted a thread asking for opinions regarding the authenticity of an M1 Garand Inspection Stamp. I have since thought of something else............

Is there a known authority on this topic....not just for M1s but for 1903 Springfields, Carbines, etc. who can inspect cartouches and, if Authentic, provide any kind of document supporting it?

I think that this would be of great value to many of us, whether just interested, causual shooter, competitor, casual collector or die hard collector.

For the same reason that we come to sites like this to ask for "expert" opinions, at some point, when we sell or otherwise pass on on of our beloved rifles, the prospective buyer is going to ask about the authenticity of the inspection stamps. Do we expect him to believe us when we say, "some guy on http://www.Milsurps.com said it was authentic"?

Wouldn't a name, on a letterhead of some kind, explicitly and thoroughly describing the stamps and WHY they are genuine, add to the value of our rifles AND justify whatever asking price we place on them, rather than the buyer saying, "I can get an M1 Garand at the CMP for half that price!" (I have actually heard this reply).

With so many counterfeit and fake stampings, I think something like this would be worthwhile and of value to all of us.

Any ideas of an authority who could be approached?

Thanks,
Jason

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[Bob Womack]

You've received a thumbs-up on your stock on the other thread from Rick Boreky (Rick B). At this point Rick owns the largest private collection of M1 stocks in the world... by a colossal margin.

Bob

[browningautorifle]

If you were to actually search here you'd find countless threads describing these markings and their originality or not. We have people here that are fully qualified to give an opinion and once you hang around you'll understand where their expertise originates. They aren't going to give you a page worth of wherefores and why-as...so the counterfeiters can correct their trade. They'll be along to your thread, the reason it takes time is their's only a very few and the rest of us look, make our own opinion and then stand back and wait for them to come and TELL us all.

As for your later sales of said rifle, some can never be convinced as to originality or otherwise assembled rifles. Good luck there. One that knows what he's looking at will talk business...

[Roadkingtrax]

As a competitive shooter.

No, it doesn't matter.

[Badger]

Some interesting associated threads..

Inspection Stamp Quiz

The Legend of Barnwood (by Richard borecky)

Regards,
Doug

[Jason60chev]

It was just a thought, as documentation as to authenticity is often important and can make a difference......and researching or trying to find an authority to render an opinion for a purchase is often time consuming. I guess if a rifle is for sale at a gun show, auction or other time sensitive venue, a buyer will just have to assess the information at hand. Thank you for the reply and opinion.

[Joe W]

Hello, Again, Milsurp Friends,

Wouldn't a name, on a letterhead of some kind, explicitly and thoroughly describing the stamps and WHY they are genuine, add to the value of our rifles AND justify whatever asking price we place on them, rather than the buyer saying, "I can get an M1 Garand at the CMP for half that price!" (I have actually heard this reply).


Thanks,
Jason

Rick borecky is who I would go to for determining the validity of a cartouche found on an M1 rifle stock but I am not sure that collectors that do not frequent these forums or are not long time collectors, would recognize his name. I guess if you asked a potential buyer if he knew who "Rick Borecky was and he replied "no", a letter signed by Rick would do you no good. On the other hand if the buyer said, "yes, I know who he is and value his input" then I guess it would help. Unfortunately someone such as Bruce Canfield would have more name recognition than Rick but Canfield most likely also goes to Rick for validation of a cartouche.
Also, if a guy at a gun show tells you ", "I can get an M1 Garand at the CMP for half that price!" then he really is not interested in paying a premium for a correct stock cartouche or, for that matter, a collectable M1 rifle.

[browningautorifle]

Also, if a guy at a gun show tells you ", "I can get an M1 Garand at the CMP for half that price!" then he really is not interested in paying a premium for a correct stock cartouche or, for that matter, a collectable M1 rifle.

And that's exactly where we are. Too many just want a "New" rifle at the cheapest possible cost. They'd be the one to take home a collector that they managed to fall into and change it all over to something with eye appeal. You can't force them to know...