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    I would assume that the U.S.iconS. Fitzgerald could "see" the dirty great container ship either visually or electronically with radar or other on board sensors. I don't really see how they can say that they were not aware of the container ship's presence, unless of course everyone on the bridge of the Fitzgerald was either fast asleep or completely incompetent. I can only assume that the Fitzgerald was under the impression that it had "right of way" but clearly the container ship either had other ideas or simply didn't see the Fitzgerald.

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    When watching the video I attached it looks like the impact was near Video time 1:06, Upper left corner Time Stamp was at 16:32:47.
    Then the ACX takes the hard right, back left and carries on towards it's intended course. Continues until it decides to turn back (maybe now knowing it was in a collision) at Video time 1:53, Time Stamp 17:04:37... ~1/2 hour after. At Video Time 3:06 Time Stamp 17:54:17 aprox 1-1/2hr after impact, Have they reached the impact point? Or searching for a damaged vessel?

    The track away to the north, followed by the Crazy Ivan, I don't understand.
    Then the ACX scoots along off to port.

    Very rough draft here but the time lines run close to the estimated collision times we've had reported to us.

    I'll attach the video again to make it easier to look at the time lines I've posted.

    Jog done these video time and time stamps, or open this in 2 windows and pass along your thoughts.

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    GEEEEZZEE,
    I've seen and read so many wild theories blaming all of the above, but haven't run across anyone putting the blame on Aliens yet...
    Would be entertaining if it wasn't for our lost souls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    The destroyer may have been a small target for the container ship but the destroyer should have known exactly where that container ship was and been able to avoid it.

    That was my first thought upon reading about this collision. More specifically, "What happened to the tens of millions of dollars worth of tracking gear on that destroyer?!"

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    Read this theory: Electronics aboard the Fitz were destroyed by a EMP.
    Also this, sold to North Korea by China:
    China's new microwave weapon can disable missiles and paralyze tanks | Popular Science

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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    PHOTO: A screenshot provided by vessel-tracking service MarineTraffic shows the route of the container ship ACX Crystal that collided with the U.S.iconFitzgerald in the waters southwest of Tokyo ...
    Wow! The strange thing (for me), other than that odd track, is that, prior to reading the text, I immediately recognized that as showing part of the Izu peninsula and the Sagami Bay (I always think of it as Sagami Wan) ...

    ... just one of myriad useless nuggets of details rattling around in my skull.

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    The other day..reports said no one was on bridge of ACX cargo ship.

    Today I read:
    The cargo vessel's skipper, Capt. Ronald Advincula, submitted a report to the ship's owner, Dainichi Investment Corporation. The captain's statement alleges that the container ship, the Philippine-flagged ACX Crystal, had "signaled with flashing lights after the Fitzgerald 'suddenly' steamed onto a course to cross its path," according to the Reuters article.

    The Crystal steered hard to starboard to avoid the destroyer, but hit the Fitzgerald 10 minutes later at 1:30 a.m., according to Advincula's report that was seen by Reuters.

    My 2 concerns......... If no one was on the bridge of the ACX at the time... Who signaled with flashing lights?
    Then if the Fitzgerald 'suddenly' crossed it's (the ACX) path, Why steer hard to Starboard?

    Time will tell, but I smell Fish.

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    What distances would be involved given a time lapse of 10 minutes understanding its a 29,000 tonne ship could have the destroyer poured on the coal to avoid the container vessel or didn't the destroyer see the other ship.
    I like a few others are trying to understand how a state of the art warship that had to have people in charge on the bridge miss a ship of that size with all the radar they have.
    As I am pretty sure the radar room does not shut down after sundown and if the bridge of the container ship was devoid of human control then despite the who's wrong surely the rules mandate the bridge will be manned 24/7 if so then there may be a big law suit coming if it is proven.

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    Compliancy replaced Competency?

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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    The cargo vessel's skipper, Capt. Ronald Advincula, submitted a report to the ship's owner, Dainichi Investment Corporation. The captain's statement alleges that the container ship, the Philippine-flagged ACX Crystal, had "signaled with flashing lights
    Perhaps the Captain of the cargo vessel is able to offer a plausible explanation as to why his ship appeared to follow the course shown in the video, Post42.

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