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    cartridges used in the Model 1903 Rifle

    My photo shows the cartridges used in the Model 1903 rifle:


    left 30-03, 30-06, 30M1 and 30M2

    when first production of the 30M2 started in 1937, the bullets were stained a gray color
    so the user would not confuse them with 30M1 cartridgesAttachment 86322
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    I have exactly one 30-03 cartridge, they're a bit scarce around these parts...
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    I found some surplus 06 rounds with white and green painted tips mixed in an old ammo can. Seems as if they were used for aerial gunnery practice according to the inter-web. They have a 43 head stamp which corroborated with what I read and it was very interesting reading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doco overboard View Post
    I found some surplus 06 rounds with white and green painted tips mixed in an old ammo can. Seems as if they were used for aerial gunnery practice according to the inter-web. They have a 43 head stamp which corroborated with what I read and it was very interesting reading.
    The white and green denote frangible ammunition. It was also used for subcaliber range training for tank crews. Ayers Kaserne had a range set up like an old time shooting gallery with cutout tanks replacing the ducks. Spent much time training gunners to track movers. A single shot relay was installed in the firing circuit to the coax machinegun. Frangible ammo, cal.30 with the M37 Brownings and later 7.62 frangible, M160 did an adequate job, albeit at reduced ranges, and an adequate backstop could be more readily constructed. Much of similar gun manipulation training in later years was done using the M55 laser and a reflective board.


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    .30 M1icon cartridges aren't that common either. I have a full clip of original '03 guard rounds with two balls in place of a bullet and these are hard to find as well.

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    30 cal Frangible and 7,62mm Frangible

    photo shows both a 30 cal Frangible cartridge from WW2 used in a special modified Browning machine gun to fire on a special modified Bell P-63 to train aerial gunners.

    The 7,62x51mm Frangible has a unique headstamp and was also developed with other types of 7,62mm NATO. Attachment 86331Attachment 86332

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCS View Post
    photo shows both a 30 cal Frangible cartridge from WW2 used in a special modified Browning machine gun to fire on a special modified Bell P-63 to train aerial gunners.

    The 7,62x51mm Frangible has a unique headstamp and was also developed with other types of 7,62mm NATO. Attachment 86331Attachment 86332
    That's the one I was describing, there was about 30-40 of them in there.

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    Do you have the 7,62x51mm frangible ? what are the headstamps as these are not common to find. Some were used in training in the tank (M48) M73 machine gun and later M60

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    No sorry, just the 06. Do you need a few of the 06? I'm not a collector but maybe you could use some for trade with others or what not.

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    Collecting .30 caliber military cartridges can be a whole collecting field in itself. I have a few.
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