DEAC FN G1

[Gil Boyd]

Any body got a DEAC version what are they worth?

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[Buccaneer]

Any body got a DEAC version what are they worth?

The answer is absolutely nothing unless it has been brought up to the new quite ridiculous EU specification and then resubmitted to the proof house. If this has not been done it is ILLEGAL to sell or even give it away, but you are allowed to keep it until you die....... then it becomes illegal even to leave it in your will unless the aforementioned is complied with.

[morison29]

The answer is absolutely nothing unless it has been brought up to the new quite ridiculous EU specification and then resubmitted to the proof house. If this has not been done it is ILLEGAL to sell or even give it away, but you are allowed to keep it until you die....... then it becomes illegal even to leave it in your will unless the aforementioned is complied with.

I live in France and am a regular shooter. My next acquisition will be a live fire semi auto L1A1. However, I find all this discussion about EU directives for de acts very interesting. I have seen many at arms fairs here in France since this came in in the UK and have not seen a sign of the measures. Field stripping and removable of barrels etc. are the norm. Barrels are blocked at the breech with a welded plug but with the rifling remaining untouched. What is deactivated, by cutting the feed lips, is the magazine which is treated as a restricted item. On the matter of L1A1s. those available in France at the moment all seem to be in excellent to as new condition and are said to come from storage in the Falkland Islands. Does any one know the truth of it?

[mrclark303]

I live in France and am a regular shooter. My next acquisition will be a live fire semi auto L1A1. However, I find all this discussion about EU directives for de acts very interesting. I have seen many at arms fairs here in France since this came in in the UK and have not seen a sign of the measures. Field stripping and removable of barrels etc. are the norm. Barrels are blocked at the breech with a welded plug but with the rifling remaining untouched. What is deactivated, by cutting the feed lips, is the magazine which is treated as a restricted item. On the matter of L1A1s. those available in France at the moment all seem to be in excellent to as new condition and are said to come from storage in the Falkland Islands. Does any one know the truth of it?

Storage in the Falkland islands you say ... I would take that with a pinch of salt. The FIDF sold off their L1's in the late 80's (or early 90's) and replaced them with Steyr AUG's. So very long gone ... I believe they were all imported into the UK and virtually all deactivated.

If these rifles are in excellent condition, then they are probably ex UK war reserve pieces, or they have been refurbished by a company like LuxDefTec. I hear a number of ex War reserve L1's are still stored with dealers in Holland.
Very interested to see were they are being proofed, that might give us an idea...

[Roger Payne]

In other words, 'What's it worth?'

'About two years'.


(But you're ok if you have the new super duper UK/EU deact certificate).

[Gil Boyd]

I was only asking what they are worth
I'll get my old handcuffs out now and oil them up, just talking about it
The reason for asking was, I didn't realise they were out there for sale, I was just looking at D&B Militaria's site and they want £950 for them

[Buccaneer]

The reason for asking was, I didn't realise they were out there for sale, I was just looking at D&B Militaria's site and they want £950 for them

The silly part about it is before current EU directive and under the pre 1996 spec whilst still being fully deactivated because they had a bi pod they were allowed to have full moving parts unlike the rifle without the bipod which had to be deactivated to a different specification. If readers from around the world are confused don't worry we were as well.....

[Roger Payne]

Well, any dealers offering these things for sale are risking everything if they don't have the current paperwork. I would hope everyone does now.

[David TS]

Well, any dealers offering these things for sale are risking everything if they don't have the current paperwork. I would hope everyone does now.

Roger

The G1 in question is listed under the following section of D&B's website:

In this Category are Pre EU/UK Specification Deactivated Guns. These are available for sale to Customers outside of the European Union, including the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man, Museums in the EU that have the Correct Authority, and for Short Term Film and Theatre Hire within the UK.

Please note: You will need to contact us by email or phone to organise purchase or hire of these items.

Any gun in this category can be re-deactivated to the current EU/ UK spec for £75 extra, for sale in the EU.

[browningautorifle]

I remember seeing a Turk carrying one over in Cyprus, up towards the airport at Lizard flats. Completely silver and well carried...long time back...