Few pics for MrClarke and others...

[bigduke6]

Whilst in Calgary Military Museum yesterday stumbled upon these........ thought I'd share the pics, there was a lovely cutaway Lewis gun but the reflection of the glass case never did justice for the pics but these weren't too bad.

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[mrclark303]

Geoff, you are spoiling us mate! Lovely examples, that's set my week up the right way...

[Gil Boyd]

Geoff,
Thats an early one with wood. The one I had my hands on was a green fluted legs that made up the stock and grip when uppermost. I'll see if I can take some shots

[browningautorifle]

Thats an early one with wood.

Gil, those are our weapons...that's how we carried them from beginning to end. That's standard. Later pattern wood too, the early had vent holes. The serial number on the C2 is interesting, not an issue number at all and the BBC is welded in place. This must have been a seizure from somewhere and given to the museum or the Regiments. It has an SMG sling on it too by the looks... Been a few years since I've been there myself...

[stencollector]

Gil, those are our weapons...that's how we carried them from beginning to end. That's standard. Later pattern wood too, the early had vent holes. The serial number on the C2 is interesting, not an issue number at all and the BBC is welded in place. This must have been a seizure from somewhere and given to the museum or the Regiments. It has an SMG sling on it too by the looks... Been a few years since I've been there myself...

The serial appears to be 202WD #2. My guess is it would be either assembled or deactivated at 202 workshop for issue to the museum. The sling looks too wide for a SMG...looks more like someone stuck a bren clip on the end of a FN sling.

"...lost a fight with a Mig welder..." Everything in every CF museum is welded shut or otherwise 100% deactivated. Knew a guy who loaned the Borden museum a fully operational .40mm Bofors gun, they promptly welded shut. never did find out how it worked out, but he was getting ready to sue 'em.
The C2 used any FAL mag. Supposed to be one of it's 'charms'. Don't recall ever seeing anything but a 20 though. PBI units maybe.

That is not true, and contrary to the CF museum manual which states that small arms shall not be altered. I work for a CF museum, and while some sacrilege has been performed on some of the firearms, for the most part, our weapons are unaltered. I did see an anomoly to this when we recently ordered another SMG C1 and received a solidly welded up example.
A few years ago we got in a C1 105mm howitzer. It went through base maintenance first for pre-issue checks, and they started welding it up. Our artifacts manager went over with the manual and they had to un-do their welds. When it comes to the larger stuff, it can be issued as an artifact or as a monument. Artifact is un-altered, monument has every moving part including the wheel nuts welded in place.
Saw plenty of 30 round magazines in service for the C2. Not uncommon at all.

[mrclark303]

That's probably the metric Fal Gil, with the legs folding up into the metal forend recess's, G1, STG58 etc

These two are inch pattern, the Canadian Arsenals C2A1 LMG and a C1A1.

Guessing they have both lost a fight with a Mig welder Geoff?

Still, lovely examples and I would happily give a kidney to have either in my Inch pattern collection!

[Gil Boyd]

John/Geoff,
Here you go wrong mag but in my hands 10 minutes ago:

[mrclark303]

Looks in good order Gil, definitely a pre 88 Semi auto mate, the inch pattern (Semi only) safety was a standard mod back then on civvy Fals.

The saw cut through the BC is a little overboard!

[Gil Boyd]

I take it John it would have had a 30 round mag not the 20 one it has there??

[browningautorifle]

I take it John it would have had a 30 round mag not the 20 one it has there??

Which one Gil, the C2 has a Canadian 30...do you mean the one you have...?