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    US Property 513-T raised stock cartouche

    I recently obtained 7 Remington US Property 513-T's, in various conditions. I noticed that on some of the stocks the cartouche's were raised rather than an imprinted stamp. Its the first time I have come across this and I'm wondering how it was achieved.



    It's incredibility interesting.

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    This phenomenon is sometimes seen on sanded stocks with a liberal coat of new stock oil. I think the stock finish "pools up" in the stamped cartouche, and, when dry, seems to be higher than the surrounding wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m1903rifle View Post
    This phenomenon is sometimes seen on sanded stocks with a liberal coat of new stock oil.
    Not the case on these, its the actual wood that is raised.
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    It wasn't achieved, it just happens over time. You see it occasionally as you go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    It wasn't achieved, it just happens over time. You see it occasionally as you go.
    Boggles the mind. I suppose that if the wood were still wet deeper in the stock the fiber would push the stamp out higher over time. All very odd.
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    Are all of the stocks stamped with RIA stamp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill View Post
    Are all of the stocks stamped with RIA stamp?
    I haven't taken a good look so I'm not sure about all seven 513T's, I know at least two have the RIA stamp.
    There are three different US Property versions; The Blued/Black with US Property stamped on the receiver and barrel, Parkerized with US Property and Military Finish stamped, and on that looks like a CMPicon it has the National Board stock, globe front sight rather then the ramped sight and U.S. stamped at the read of the receiver. When I bought them I wasn't looking at cartouche's because it was a batch buy. Along with the seven US Property I have two Civilian in the batch.
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    I know the stock is different from the ones I used in high school with ROTC. I had one assigned to me for a year before I got a 40X and later a 52D. But on any given day the 513T could shoot as well as the others.

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    I would guess someone steamed the stocks to get the 40 years of gunk out of them, then refinished them with oil. This could cause it. The stocks on the example rifle looks awfully clean for a club rifle that has seen 40 years of use by grubby hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick303 View Post
    guess someone steamed the stocks to get the 40 years of gunk out of them
    Ahhhh... Didn't think about that! The stock looks clean because I cleaned off the funk using 91% Isopropyl Alcohol; no steam or sanding involved and gave it a two of coats of RLO red oil and a final finish coat of RLO, the raised cartouches were there before I started. I sold this rifle to a friend (at cost no less) for this daughter who's in a marksmanship program and he wanted it cleaned up. However, the stock was not gurddy .. gruddy to begin with so you may be on the right track.
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