+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 10 of 11

Thread: Spring GCA Journal

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Contributing Member Bob Seijas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-26-2024 @ 09:24 PM
    Location
    Montville, NJ and Delray Beach, FL
    Posts
    2,223
    Real Name
    Bob Seijas
    Local Date
    04-28-2024
    Local Time
    06:39 AM

    Spring GCA Journal

    The Spring issue is in final assembly, although it's still a couple of weeks from going to the printer. There are some really interesting articles besides the two early Winchesters mentioned previously... Marty Morgan has written a good one on some of the unusual M1icon's found in the Philippine returns. Another I like is on an odd flash hider that could have been a USMC project. You still have time to subscribe if you aren't yet a GCAicon member
    Attachment 99949
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.
    Real men measure once and cut.

  2. The Following 5 Members Say Thank You to Bob Seijas For This Useful Post:


  3. #2
    Legacy Member Tommiep54's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Last On
    01-21-2021 @ 07:57 PM
    Location
    Sylvania, Ohio
    Posts
    14
    Local Date
    04-28-2024
    Local Time
    05:39 AM
    Thanks Bob! Looking forward to it!

    Tom


  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    Contributing Member Doco overboard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Last On
    04-23-2024 @ 11:09 AM
    Location
    Delmarva Peninsula
    Posts
    452
    Real Name
    Brian Stiles
    Local Date
    04-28-2024
    Local Time
    06:39 AM
    Thanks for the prompt and reminder! Just ponied up for two great places in about as much time as it has taken to type this.

  6. Thank You to Doco overboard For This Useful Post:


  7. #4
    Legacy Member ROCK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-03-2022 @ 01:24 AM
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    117
    Local Date
    04-28-2024
    Local Time
    06:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Seijasicon View Post
    Another I like is on an odd flash hider that could have been a USMC project.
    Very interesting flash hider. Prototype and early grenade launchers is another area yet to be explored.

  8. #5
    Contributing Member Bob Seijas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-26-2024 @ 09:24 PM
    Location
    Montville, NJ and Delray Beach, FL
    Posts
    2,223
    Real Name
    Bob Seijas
    Local Date
    04-28-2024
    Local Time
    06:39 AM
    Thread Starter
    Interesting indeed. The author (Steve Norton) speculates that it might have been developed because the thinner profile of the bell allowed the regular sights to be used, whereas the standard hider bell was high enough to interfere.
    Attachment 100026
    Last edited by Bob Seijas; 04-18-2019 at 10:09 PM.
    Real men measure once and cut.

  9. The Following 2 Members Say Thank You to Bob Seijas For This Useful Post:


  10. #6
    Contributing Member Bob Seijas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-26-2024 @ 09:24 PM
    Location
    Montville, NJ and Delray Beach, FL
    Posts
    2,223
    Real Name
    Bob Seijas
    Local Date
    04-28-2024
    Local Time
    06:39 AM
    Thread Starter

    Flash Hider

    I was discussing it with Steve Norton, he elaborated with info not in the article, including a quote from Dick Culvericon, the archetype Marine:

    "A cone flash hider designated the M2 was adopted in early 1945 [but] unfortunately fit so loosely that it often degraded the accuracy of the rifle. The Marine Corps developed their own for the Marine version of the M1C, the USMC M1952. The USMC hider was made from a grenade launcher that allowed the user to tighten the bell onto the muzzle by hand utilizing a coarsely threaded bell that screwed into the locking base. Hand tightening the bell actually helped to stabilize the gas cylinder when the hider was tightened down."

    Steve added, "My flash hider is threaded at the end and can be tightened down on the muzzle. I think this a fascinating trait never discussed before, a threaded cone you can tighten. The Marines also had a lot of the M3 Grease Guns which is what the cone is from."
    Attachment 100034
    Last edited by Bob Seijas; 04-19-2019 at 04:50 PM.
    Real men measure once and cut.

  11. #7
    Contributing Member Bob Seijas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-26-2024 @ 09:24 PM
    Location
    Montville, NJ and Delray Beach, FL
    Posts
    2,223
    Real Name
    Bob Seijas
    Local Date
    04-28-2024
    Local Time
    06:39 AM
    Thread Starter

    Accuracy With Hider

    When the M1C was having such terrible accuracy problems (as many as 200 rifles in rehab for failing the tests) SA was desperate to identify the cause. One suspect was the flash hider because Ordnance insisted that the rifles be test-fired with it on. Tests were conducted to get to the bottom of it once and for all (at Aberdeen IIRC). The results showed that the hider influenced accuracy from negative to positive depending on how tight it fit. A really tight one actually improved accuracy, while a loose one damaged it. So the Marines were on the right track with a hider that could be tightened by turning the bell.
    Real men measure once and cut.

  12. Thank You to Bob Seijas For This Useful Post:


  13. #8
    Legacy Member RCS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 08:23 PM
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    4,324
    Real Name
    Robert Seccombe
    Local Date
    04-28-2024
    Local Time
    05:39 AM
    We had three M1D rifles in my company (HRA with SA barrels, M84 scopes) they were never fired with flash hiders

  14. #9
    Contributing Member Bob Seijas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-26-2024 @ 09:24 PM
    Location
    Montville, NJ and Delray Beach, FL
    Posts
    2,223
    Real Name
    Bob Seijas
    Local Date
    04-28-2024
    Local Time
    06:39 AM
    Thread Starter

    Flash Hider

    Most people think the "hider" somehow stifles the flash, but all it does is reduce the amount of flash that comes back to the shooter's eyes. The fireball is the same, just elongated and focused to the front.
    Real men measure once and cut.

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-14-2019, 08:50 PM
  2. GCA Journal Spring
    By Bob Seijas in forum M1 Garand/M14/M1A Rifles
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 05-31-2018, 11:58 AM
  3. Spring GCA Journal
    By Bob Seijas in forum M1 Garand/M14/M1A Rifles
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 03-02-2017, 04:32 PM
  4. Spring GCA Journal
    By Bob Seijas in forum M1 Garand/M14/M1A Rifles
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-30-2015, 09:11 PM
  5. Slide Spring Housing (Spring Tube)
    By JimF4M1s (Deceased) in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-19-2009, 12:36 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts