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    Ah! That's where it went Bindi! I'm pretty sure I have handled that rifle on numerous occasions. If I'm not mistaken it was Rob Hallam's & IIRC it was sold as part of the Charnwood Collection. I have 0C379, which is still a 4T, & a 12C Less Telescope Mk1* & a scoped up 14C Mk1*. Years ago I had 0C4335 which I now suspect was a possible RSAF conversion, but I let it go before I appreciated its potential significance, something I now regret.

    Actually, I don't think it throws a spanner in the works. We know that before the decision to stick to BSA rifles only, a quantity of rifles from other sources was converted & went into service. Yours was probably one of those, & survived long enough to be converted into a L42A1 in the 1970's. A rare piece even amongst L42's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Payneicon View Post
    It makes sense. I do wonder though if the 'Less Telescope' rifles were Savage rifles in the process of being converted perhaps at the time that the 'use only BSA rifles from now on' directive came through, resulting in them being set to one side partly converted but unfinished.
    Or was it just pure random which 'less telescope' rifles remained unfinished?

    As Simon at Highwoodclassic has had a lovely 'less telescope' T for sale for a while now, and its a '44 dated N serial M47C that is only 2000 odd serial number after my 4T......!!

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    Yes, there are definitely BSA rifles that were never scoped up. From the relatively few examples that I've seen, usually later production rifles from 44 or 45. Maybe they were also 'to hand' when the end of the contracts was approaching????

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    Unfortunately none of the photos show the actual junction of the barrel and the front face of the "body". The damage the front edge of the front pad probably happened when the barrel was changed, perhaps with improvised equipment?
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    Bindi,
    You will of course know that OC109 was sent to Donnington on the 28th March 1972 part of a delivery of 13 X L42A1's.
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    Thank you Gil. I didn't.

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    Surpmil, the front pad has no damage.

    I will try to put a better pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giove View Post
    Surpmil, the front pad has no damage.

    I will try to put a better pic.
    I see, I happened to just look at this photo and it looked like there was some denting on the front edge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    I see, I happened to just look at this photo and it looked like there was some denting on the front edge.
    The 'staking' looks "odd" and would not be what I would consider to be 'functional staking' where the punch is not near the screw (in one instance) and having no effect on the other two screws.

    Staking should include the screw slot to act as an anti-vibration 'lock'.
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    Savage marked scope tin

    Here is an early BE Ltd 1941 dated tin with Rifle Serial No. 0C6903.
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