Canadian firearm ownership

[sdh1911]

My hat off to Claven2, They are not interested in crime control, they are interested people control. I hate to use such an old example, but, What was Chancellor Hitlers first agenda? To disarm the masses. This makes the masses controllable. In the area where I live there is strict gun control and yet the criminal element has no problem in finding weapons, why, because they are criminals, they do not care about any laws. By disarming legal persons we sacrifice our means to defend our selves or god forbid our nations. Those who forget, repeat!. Nuf said-SDH

[cannonball]

Claven, I agree with your arguments against regulations and their ineffectivnes to prevent crimes. But, IMO, not the regulations is the problem, its the lack of acceptance by the society. You remember the joke, where the director of the madhouse said, he could easily release half of its inhabitants, he just don´t know which half. Most of the registrated gunowners are decent guys but it happens once and a while....
And I simply have to concede, that some fellow citicens are scared to hell from certain types of weapons. They have the right to live without fear.
Imagine, what happens if I ask the authorities to grow marihuana in my backyard. I promise, I wouldn´t deal with it and when I smoke, I don´t inhale. Its just that I love those funny plants. Society says NO its not acceptable. Well, I guess I have to live with it.
Wolf

[green]

The purpose of the Cdn gun laws are not crime control or public safety but the step by step confiscation of firearms from the law abiding citizens. In the last election the incumbent Prime Minister made confiscation of legally owned handguns a major election promise. If his Liberal party had been reelected Canadians would have had their legal handguns seized by now.

[Claven2]

Claven, I agree with your arguments against regulations and their ineffectivnes to prevent crimes. But, IMO, not the regulations is the problem, its the lack of acceptance by the society. You remember the joke, where the director of the madhouse said, he could easily release half of its inhabitants, he just don´t know which half. Most of the registrated gunowners are decent guys but it happens once and a while....
And I simply have to concede, that some fellow citicens are scared to hell from certain types of weapons. They have the right to live without fear.
Imagine, what happens if I ask the authorities to grow marihuana in my backyard. I promise, I wouldn´t deal with it and when I smoke, I don´t inhale. Its just that I love those funny plants. Society says NO its not acceptable. Well, I guess I have to live with it.
Wolf

By that logic we should ban cars and alcohol

If someone's going to snap, the gun is just an inanimate tool that could easily be replaced by a bat, a crossbow, a kitchen knife, an automobile or even a fist. You cannot prevent that with legislation. Period. A psycho doesn't care about legal consequences.

Just as a hardened criminal doesn't give the contents of the Firearms Act a second thought.

[cannonball]

We have regulations for cars and alcohol and still have fun with both. But not at the same time ;-)

[Claven2]

We have regulations for cars and alcohol and still have fun with both. But not at the same time ;-)

Yes, but the regs don't tell you you can't have a sports car because it's faster and theoretically could hit more people before stopping if you drove it into a crowd.

And the government doesn't limit the size of cases of beer to only 5 cans...

There are common sense gun regs, such as screening out criminals, ppl with confirmed psychological problems, keeping them away from small children, etc. and then there's just punitive stuff. I think few Canadians have a problem with the basic laws, it's all the senseless parts that don't add to public safety which shooters take issue with.

With that in mind, I'm locking this thread because it's straying too far into the realm of political discussion which according to forum rules is off topic.

If you'd like to continue discussing the politics of Canadian firearms ownership, please visit www.canadiangunnutz.com - this topic is very much on-topic there and if you PM me, I'd be happy to participate in another debate on same.

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