Help with unit ID. Ross 1910

[koldt]

Hi guys. I'm wondering if anyone may be able to identify the unit marking on my Ross butt? Or might it just be a rack number?
Thanks for any assistance.

Here it is.


On this butt.


On this rifle.

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[Jean]

I believe it is a rack number, rather than a unit number.

[Oatmeal Savage]

Koldt, as usual, nice rifle!

[Claven2]

I think 117 is a rack number. 451 is the serial number. 1916 is the issue (and probably mfgr too) year.

Unit marking is often found on the front side of the stock's pistol grip.

[Rossguy]

I think 117 is a rack number. 451 is the serial number. 1916 is the issue (and probably mfgr too) year.

Unit marking is often found on the front side of the stock's pistol grip.

"451" is only part of the serial number......the serial number for this rifle is 451 over 1916, followed by "LE". There were heaps of Mk III's made and issued in 1916 using number "451" and "1916", but only one of them was part of the other 998 rifles in the "LE" series.
An extremely clean example indeed, but from what I see, I think "Chislerboy" (could he be the son of Saint Cliff of Chisler?) is right on track regarding creative stamping....

[koldt]

An extremely clean example indeed, but from what I see, I think "Chislerboy" (could he be the son of Saint Cliff of Chisler?) is right on track regarding creative stamping....

Sorry, I don't quite follow what you are saying?

[Badger]

I also think the 117 is a rack number..........

In our Canada - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here), there's a good example of a 1916 M10 Ross MkIII* (click here).

It's clearly marked on the right side of the butt 16th Battalion C.E.F., which is The Canadian Scottish Regiment (Princess Mary's).

Click the thumbnails below for pics, or use the link in the MKL entry to go to the complete 77 picture photo montage of this piece.

Regards,
Badger

[koldt]

Here are some more pics.
First one is a pic of the bottom grip area.

Looks like a "Z" over "718". Also note the 1916 dated sling. Everything date matches. 1916 dated rifle, bayonet, sling .


Here is the '16 dated bayonet.


Wondering about the "11" on the grip over the 5/16???


And the markings "43R.63" at the throat of the scabbard?

[green]

11 is for Pattern 1911 year of introduction of the MkII bt.

[koldt]

11 is for Pattern 1911 year of introduction of the MkII bt.

Thanx.....