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    I'm reasonably certain this was one of a the 'truck guns' made by various gunsmiths in South Africa 30-35 years ago. The No 4 rifles were readily available, R1/R4 folding stock, shotgun pistol grip, shortened barrel.



    Never handled one but an absolutely dependable rifle in a handy package with enough stopping power. After all, you weren't going to participate in shooting competitions but protecting your property and your loved ones against poaching, criminals, terrorists, etc, at short distance. For that you won't have noticed recoil but have convinced prospective criminals you were prepared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daan Kemp View Post
    I'm reasonably certain this was one of a the 'truck guns' made by various gunsmiths in South Africa 30-35 years ago. The No 4 rifles were readily available, R1/R4 folding stock, shotgun pistol grip, shortened barrel.

    Never handled one but an absolutely dependable rifle in a handy package with enough stopping power. After all, you weren't going to participate in shooting competitions but protecting your property and your loved ones against poaching, criminals, terrorists, etc, at short distance. For that you won't have noticed recoil but have convinced prospective criminals you were prepared.
    I have one. Suppressor fitted and I roll my own sub-sonic loads. I will post pics as soon as our electricity is back and I can take some.

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    Folding stock is not from a R series rifle, but you did get some where they were used. Problem is they fold to the wrong side so the bolt cannot be opened with the stock folded.https://imgur.com/a/cb1Fdk5

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    I was wondering about that "left-folding" butt.

    Is it possible that some clever person simply drove out the roll-pin that retains the two butt "tubes' and then plugged the rear-end back in, inverted? That would give you a left-folding butt that you need to LIFT, rather than depress, to fold.

    The steel tubes are of the same diameter, the uppermost is sheathed in some sort of plastic for "comfort".

    All that is then needed is a suitably blacksmithed "adapter" to hold the rifle body and the butt together. And add a bit of length for the rather short "pull" of a Galil butt. On the the R4 / Galil, the butt hinge-block is held in its socket in the rifle body by a serious roll-pin. All very "workshop-friendly".

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    Entirely possible and probable.

    The R4 had the stock lengthened to fit the South African ergonomics. The initial shorter stocked Galil purchase possibly later retrofitted.

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