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    Photos of Ross M-10 with unknown history



    Is there any knowledge about the stamped markings on the receiver:
    -Are the crossed flags Canadian proof marks (Dominion of Canadaicon Proof)?
    -What does the number 5 mean?

    Some feedback was received that "not English make" and "nitro proofed" are English proof marks. Does this mean that it was "sold out of service" by Englandicon after WW1?

    All of the markings have been sanded out of the stock and it has been cut short just in front of the band. It can be seen faintly that there were markings on the stock but it is difficult to tell what they could have been. Was the stock work done professionally or by a civilian owner somewhere along the way?

    Is there any way to trace any more of the history of this specific rifle?

    There are no marks on the underside of the barrel. The barrel does not appear to be shortened.

    Thanks!

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    You may be in luck: I see none of the marks for an enlarged chamber. If you have a really nice bore, you have something very shootable, even restorable.

    Typical commercial sporterization, in this case done in the UKicon. Too bad they had to slap those "NOT ENGLISH MAKE" stamps all over it.

    The two fives I have never seen before and they look like they went on before the original finish.

    Looks like a 5 or 6 as the last digit of the date(?)
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    Surpmil, Thank-you. I appreciate the information. I gave it a good cleaning and the bore is fairly shiny when held up to the light and I didn't see any obvious problems. The rifle seems to be taken care of by the last owner. The only problem is that handguard was busted off under the band. It looks like someone pried it out without unscrewing the band. This can't be seen unless the rifle is disassembled. There is an individual selling new stocks for the rifle as well as the hardware. It's not cheap-- a fair price for the time and effort but something that I'll have to budget for if I go that road. As far as the "NOT ENGLISH MAKE", I agree 100%. It looks like whoever had the stamp in hand was on a mission to do it in a way that isn't pretty. I've tried discerning marks on the stock as well and can't make heads or tails out of anything.

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    You're very welcome. For the stock try black light in a darkened room. It's a "5" or a "6", not surprisingly as 1915 and 16 were the two years of greatest production.

    Sometimes you can find unit markings too, some of which are really historic: battalions that fought at 2nd Ypres for example, but that's very rare of course.

    Yes, the crossed flags "DCP" is "Dominion of Canadaicon Proof".

    To restore the stock you could try splicing a new piece in with the joint under the band. I'd be inclined to super-glue in a couple of steel pins or maybe a single bronze rod 3/8" dia. and at least 6" long for strength, but that's just me.

    Obviously strip all the metal off the stock first, and what you have looks either heavily sanded around the guard or heavily shrunken (just as likely) so I would soak it in raw linseed oilicon for a few days AFTER you graft on a new piece, if you do.

    People are always dropping linseed oilicon off at recycling depots by the way; I asked the staff at one local to me to put the jugs aside for me and how have several five gallon carboys full of raw and boiled.
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