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    Historical milsurp rifle length classifications

    I'm not sure if this belongs here but it seems like it may fit here.

    Full size rifle, carbine, short rifle... And other... Is there a classical definition of what barrel lengths are classified as? I'm specifically talking about bolt action rifles, although others may apply.

    Full size rifles... Barrels near 30 inches or longer... Seems clear cut to me. Examples... Gewehr 98, 1886 Lebel.

    The short rifle... Longer than a carbine but definitely much shorter than a full size rifle... Seems to be around 24-27 inches of barrel for short rifles on average... Examples... K98icon, Lee enfield no1 mk3, 1903 Springfield, Finnishicon m39.

    Carbines... (Where I'm especially confused) It seems to me that cavalry carbines seem to be shorter in barrel lengths than what an artillery mans carbine would've been... (Assuming either had a rifle...) I think some carbines the Belgians fielded into WW1 had barrels as short as 15 inches... But other Belgian carbines seems to have longer barrels, such as the Mauser model 89 that used the yatagan bayonet... This rifle is sometimes called the Belgian model 1916... it had a 21.65 inch barrel. Could the 1916 be called a short rifle with it's 21.65 inch barrle? Examples... The Carcano Moschetto 91, Belgian m89 lightened carbine.

    What about rifles that have barrels around 20-23 inches in length? Would they be classified as carbines or short rifles? Or would you classify this length depending on who would use it? Such as the cavalry, motorized or regular field troops. With barrels in this length I'm seeing them used mostly but ground troops or artillery men.

    Sorry if this is a silly question for you guys... I understand there are modern definitions... Full size rifles these days are 22-44 inches of barrel... Sometimes longer with magnum cartridges. I'm just looking for what the historical definitions would be... If there is any... Thanks.
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